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Telson

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I hope you're joking about the bird...

Seriously!:confused:

I mean, small rats and mice are real "pest species" and actually are on the menu in the wild, but I'm totally against taking someones hand tamed pet ANYTHING and feeding it to another creature of any kind.

I don't think it's as much a matter of "if it's cute" or not, as much as it is a matter of 1: would it be on the menu in the wild, and 2: is it a tamed "pet" or something that was bred with the intent of it being food from the get go?

Anyhow, taking someones pet that is no longer wanted and feeding it to something just to see it suffer is pretty messed up in my opinion, and I think it really reflects badly on the type of poeple who keep tarantulas for far less sadistic reasons. :mad:
 

TheWidowsPeak

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lighten up buddy, I wasn't really gonna feed it to my T, I'm sure we were both joking there, or at least I was. besides a love bird would be a little too big for my girl. and I like mice and rats a lot better than birds.
 

TheWidowsPeak

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and love birds can be pest too in austrailia or wherever they are from I am sure they eat crops and poop on cars and stuff like that, I personaly believe that mice and rats are a lot smarter than birds, birds have to be the second nastiest creatures alive next to ferrets, they will eat there own poop, poop in there water, throw seed all over the place. I can feed the birds and they decide they would rather eat their poop than eat the seed. I hate birds. but again I still wouldn't have done it, so relax
 

Telson

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fair 'nuff

Glad to hear that... Being new to the site I don't know what kind of people post here and when you started voicing concerns about getting in trouble for it, it looked like it was seriously under consideration.

As it is, most poeple who are not in to keeping arachnids think the rest of us are psycho already, which is a public opinion I'd love to see changed by responsible keeping of these creatures, and having worked in pet stores I've refused to sell some predatory or territorial critters to certain people, so I know there are poeple who would pull a stunt like that.

Not knowing you, I have no way of knowing if your post was intended as sarcastic humor or as a serious discussion, and I'm sure that a lot of people would take it seriously "as written" unless they know you not to be someone who would follow through.

I guess this is simply one of those times when the smilies would have clarified matters, as herpinvertgirls first post made good use of the ;P
 
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Telson

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...by the way...

On another note, awsome pics and nice collection you got there!:D
 

Aviculariinae

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great pictures johnny,i could do with you taking a few pictures of mine:) what do you have in your collection or what do you work at:D
 

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heres something

hey johnny,
one thing you should know. once I fed my poecilotheria regalis female a small finch which I purchased at the local pet shop last yr. soon as I put that bird in the cage the regalis knew right away it was there, soon as the birds wings were fluttering you can see the t was salvating. she grabbed it from mid air, the bird didn't stand a chance at all but one regret after all that the friggng mess <stinking> feathers all over the place. so I got the good ole vacuum cleaner with the crevice tool on it and sucked up all the feathers in the meantime she was goin nuts from the air currents. never again will i feed any t's birds. I'll stick with any smalll lizards, large grasshoppers, etc
[]Deace
 

AudreyElizabeth

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I was kidding......

Seriously, I hate this friggin bird. I would rather have a pet rat. Every time I reach my hand near the cage it tries to take a chunk out of my fingers (It actually got me one time). So hand tamed it is not. I suspect it was parent raised, never handled, or treated badly by a previous owner. Most likely all of the above.
I'm not a sadistic person by any means. I have a love for most animals, but I'd have to agree with Johnny, birds are downright nasty critters.
And I would rather stick my hand into the Usambara kritter keeper than stick my hand into this birds cage.
So, if I came across sounding serious, I'm sorry. More than likely I will probably sell it to someone for breeding purposes only, because it is far to late to make a good 'pet' for anyone.
 

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Oh yeah,

And it might do good to mention that I was slightly intoxicated :rolleyes: When I posted that.....
 

Telson

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kewl

Glad to hear the subject was only intended as humor from both sides... being new to the site and all it sort of came across like the beginnings of "a day in the life of a budding serial killer" :D

BTW, I understand how frustrating birds can be, but there is nothing as devoted as a hand tamed conure when you are it's first and only owner. Most birds bond to their first owner and literally go a little (or a lot) nuts when separated from them. The conure I had to give up was a fantastic pet but unfortunately I didn't have the required time to be it's human. It wasn't happy unless it was on my shoulder and would scream until it was let out of the cage to be right there with me, and would nip the tar out of just about anyone who tried to touch it but me. The screaming is actually how they stay in comunication in the wild when they can't see each other, so it's sort of like yelling "everything kewl at your end?", and of course yelling at a bird for screaming just makes it think you are responding with "Yup!! How 'bout you?!"

But yah, overall birds are a pain in the butt pet if you are not a shut in or something, I agree.
 
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AudreyElizabeth

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Hee hee

No no my mother held me during bottle time...... *L* I've just got an odd sense of humor.

Welcome to the board and I hope my post didn't traumatize you. :D
 

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I always say I'm not a bird person, but (I really don't want to hijack it TOO much...but since we're kind of on the subject) I guess I'm half lying.


But I'm more than willing to bet cash that your love bird wasn't hand raised. We used to have a friend that had a pair of non-hand raised breeders, and they were vicious biters. But she hand raised the babies (Taking them from the mother before they even had feathers and hand fed them).

She sold us one cheap (Named it Emily because she hatched when Hurricane Emily was supposed to hit the east coast, but never did) and we hand raised it.

She would ride around on the dog's back, eat with the dog, sit on your shoulder all day long. And it was SUPPOSED to sleep on one leg, but never quite got that down, it would start to fall every time it tried. Heh. And it would fall asleep in your hands, on it's back, legs straight up in the air.

Did attempt to bite occasionally, but it went away with age.



That and the bigger parrott type birds seem really smart.



Other than that, feed away :p



Makes me wonder how often arboreal Ts actually DO eat birds in the wild. If you go to Rick West's site, some Ts are actually eatting bats.
 

Telson

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Yah, conures are among the smallest of the parot family, so I guess my experrience with that one biases me towards thinking they make great pets, assuming of course that it is hand tamed and raised to be such. Never had a love bird myself, so can't say anything in regard to them. Cockatiels on the other hand are just hatched with a screw loose in my opinion!! ;P

As for T foods, bouncing back to the topic of the forum (hehe :rolleyes: ) I have a curly hair of about 3" legspan, possibly bordering on 4 now I guess looking at her, and she molted about a month ago... Last week I decided to give her something a bit more filling than crickets cause she looked a little light. Got her a house gecko from the local pet store where they sell 'em as feeders and she wasted no time scarfing it. She was so enthusiastic for it in fact, and sat outside her burrow as if waiting for the next one, that I gave her the one I'd gotten for my larger seemani the following day and she nailed it eagerly.... AGAIN, she sat expectantly outside her burrow, so I picked up another feeder lizard for her about 2 days later, but this time they gave me a anole. She nailed it just as readily as the last two lizards but sort of backed off of it after about 2 minutes as though confused, but shortly resumed and finished it.

Questions: Is it normal for a juvi of this species to eat so voraciously as this? And, amazingly she doesn't look a bit heavier after it all and is once more sitting expectantly well outside of her burrow! Should I keep feeding her like this until she decides she's had enough and is fattened up a bit?
 

AudreyElizabeth

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From what I have read (and seen) curly's are voracious eaters. Big bulldozing pigs.
I'd feed her till she looks kinda plump, but not overly so, and then let her chill out for 2 to 3 weeks.
Mine was eating up until the day it molted.
 
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