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Something very different and unique from Peru

Discussion in 'Tarantula Chat' started by josh_r, Mar 5, 2014.

  1. awiec

    awiec Arachnoprince

    Don't get your hopes up, they have to describe them, possibly publish and then make sure the government will even let them ship them out of the country. Which these things are going to be a pretty penny until enough of the experts can breed them.

    Though I love the little gold eye mask, makes them look like little super heroes.
  2. josh_r

    josh_r Arachnoprince Old Timer

    The biologist describing these has submitted his paper for review, so it shouldn't take too much longer to find out what they are. I will make a post as soon as I find out.

    As far as getting things like this into the hobby, it is absolutely possible to legally export them without a description. New laws are more leniant in that regard and you can get permits as long as you can place it into the proper family... thats easy. That process is already in action.
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  3. awiec

    awiec Arachnoprince

    I hope the ones that are able to be shipped out go into the right hands, the fewer that are needed to establish a good hobby population the better in my humble opinion.
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  4. josh_r

    josh_r Arachnoprince Old Timer

    The project is a captive breeding one here in Peru. So all material going into the US hobby would already be from CB hobby material. so even less impact on wild populations :)
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  5. awiec

    awiec Arachnoprince

    That is fabulous, should keep blood lines and species pure too
  6. viper69

    viper69 ArachnoGod Old Timer

    Josh what about the other species on your page, the one with light colored legs? What's its status so far?
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  7. petkokc

    petkokc Arachnosquire

    Don't forget about EU :p
  8. awiec

    awiec Arachnoprince

    One step at a time, NA is a lot closer to Peru than Europe is, plus it will be nice to have something first for a change :p
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  9. Hanska

    Hanska Arachnobaron

    Don't worry. I bet those two germans with their backpacks full of jars are already knockin on Josh's door...:biggrin:
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  10. josh_r

    josh_r Arachnoprince Old Timer

    Actually, there are no germans knocking at my door. I make sure to keep localities pretty secret.... And, I have already talked with a few Germans who have smuggled some of the Hapaotremus out in the past and they did HORRIBLE with them. I find that strange because they are SUPER hardy in captivity as long as they don't have temps into the 80's for too long.. and definitely avoid the 90's with Hapalotremus. The new genus can tolerate higher temps a little better than Hapalotremus though. I suspect the Germans were keeping them with their tropicals??

    Viper69, the specimen on my flickr page is a new species of Hapalotremus that I can't reveal the name of as the paper has not been published yet. I have been sworn to secrecy. It is a very amazing species in person and get fairly large, feed aggressively, and settle into captivity nicely.

    For anyone who doesn't know what I am talking about, here is my flickr page. You will find pictures of the Hapalotremus there. Check my albums.



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  11. awiec

    awiec Arachnoprince

    Congratulations josh, I now want dart frogs. I'm hoping that I will be able to get a few whenever your program gets good enough results to share, hopefully I'll have a few more breeding projects under my belt by then.
  12. josh_r

    josh_r Arachnoprince Old Timer

    Well, our project most likely won't be dealing with dart frogs any time soon. The process to get permits for invertebrates takes long enough. For dart frogs, it takes years and is very expensive and a pain staking process. But who knows.... Baby steps. First we have to get permits for the inverts.
  13. awiec

    awiec Arachnoprince

    Oh well I meant keeping them in general, there are enough species available in captivity to keep me busy for a while but who knows if the invert program is deemed a success maybe a similar program can be made for them?
  14. josh_r

    josh_r Arachnoprince Old Timer

    It is certainly a possibility :)
  15. viper69

    viper69 ArachnoGod Old Timer

    Josh- how big have you observed that new species of Hapalotremus? The same question for those 2 red wing variants too.
  16. josh_r

    josh_r Arachnoprince Old Timer

    The Hapalotremus are fairly large. 5 inch legspan on average. The new genus with 2 red spots are smaller. I would say 2.5 to 3 inch legspan is pretty typical for them.
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  17. MrsHaas

    MrsHaas Arachnoangel

    Unidentified sp. "red wings" :) !! I'll just jot that down on my wish list for now
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  18. sdsnybny

    sdsnybny Arachnogeek Arachnosupporter

    Any updates?
  19. Ultum4Spiderz

    Ultum4Spiderz Arachnoking Active Member

    Wow id buy them if they were in the hobby ASAP!Sadly id wait for price drops, I cannot afford a $200 sling. My last very expensive sling died of DKS.
    Maybe Local pesticides caused this who knows =€ :cry: I only feed roaches.

    R,I.P Goliath bird-eater also I really liked that T.
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  20. Fyrwulf

    Fyrwulf Arachnosquire

    That snake is a Bothrops, but I don't recognize the species. And it's nice that they're following the Atheris matildae model for responsible propagation into the hobby for these new Ts.
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