Something different-Need some help to I.D.

Draiman

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Rob, your posts always either confuse me or crack me up. You enjoy bragging, don't you. First it was dozens of breeder B. smithi females, now it's seeing thousands of different pet inverts everyday and having seen every species of invert in the US pet trade. Let me catch my breath and say, wow.

You are clearly convinced the centipede is a Sc. heros. So why post this thread in the first place?
 

cjm1991

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Hi CJM,
If anyone could show me a Polymorpha that is over 20 cm.I might beleave it
could be one.But I don't think it would very hard for anyone to post a picture
of 16 cm and that would be a less than 6-1/2".I would like to see some proof
before i'm forced to beleave something that might not be true
.So if anyone
has Poly over 6-1/2".Please post a pictures with something in it to show
size.Like a ruler.If you don't a ruler.You can a silver dollar or 50 cent piece.
Anything to help compare the size to.I spent about 4 hours today reading about Heros and Polymorpha.I am trying to learn to I.D. each species.
Because I be waiting for ever before someone to post a picture of a 20 cm
plus Polymorpha.I would settle for a 6-1/2 incher.I not trying to be a hard
ass.I'm starting to beleave that i'm going till it dies.Then send it to Shelly to
have it identified 100%.Well CJM thanks for posting and have a great day.

PS:I'm going to return to the books tomorrow.I will learn what I need to know
to I.D it myself.

Satellite Rob
I saw a thread a month or so ago with a poly almost 7". Their size varies from where they are collected. Some poly only get 3", some get 7" and fat as hell.

My largest Poly deceased, im sure of old age around 5 or 6 months ago. Heres a pic from when it was around 5"(last pic I took of it), also lets see a pic of your "S. Heros" next to a ruler please. Draiman says it all, then again we all have an ignore list.
 

cjm1991

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By the way if you only go by colors, imagine that poly in the pic without the black bands. Now look at your pede, have a nice day.
 

Satellite Rob

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Hello Draiman,
I'm not trying to confuse or crack you up.I just don't beleave in a Polymorpha
thats over 20 cm.Today i'm going to the importer again and i'll probably come
come home with 4 or 5 different bugs.The importer will have 5000 + T's,pedes and
scorps to pick from.Thats 1 of the reasons I have as many insects as I do.
Thay make it easy.Because I have a large amount of adult B. Smithi that
cracks you up.Your easy to amuse.I aways take the best of what thay have.
Plus the bugs I take are aways feeding and thay don't have to be shipped.If
thay don't eat thay don't come home with me.If today I want a large female
T. Blondi i'll have 300+ to choose from.I don't have to take the first bug thay
pick up and i'll have a choice of 25 females 9 to 10 inch plus.There are alot
of members that keep track of there list and when thay see something thay
want I pick the best of what thay have for them.I have a big advantage over the
private collector.Not to leave out there there miscellaneous section.Thay are
bugs that don't match there order thay get.I have 8 T's and 2 scorps that I still don't
know what thay are and may never know.The best part of it all.I known the
owner so long.I get the bugs cheaper than than anyone else.So Draimon I
hope I gave you something else to laugh about.It's been a pleasure
answering your post and feel free to post again.Have a great day.

PS:There only a handful of poeple that ever get a chance to look in the misc.
section and the bugs there are so cheap.Because it's hard to get money
for something.When you don't know what it is.

Satellite Rob
 
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cacoseraph

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look bro

i am going to be blunt. you have been told how to scientifically tell what you have. size doesn't matter. location doesn't matter. the diagnostic taxonomical features are all that matter. because you have some strange need for it to be a heros you refuse to actually check. that is fine... but you wasted a lot of ppl's time and that is how you make ignore lists


nobody but newbies thinks because you possibly deal with tons of bugs that you are knowledgeable. all the ppl who actually can get bugs down to species know how to do it, have TOLD YOU, and couldn't care less what you do with your spare time. in point of fact, some of the massive importers are notoriously bad at knowing what they have.


you have had ppl who swim in centipede literature and swim in BREEDING HEROS tell you what they think and you just ingore them


so really, your thread should have been "only ID my centipede if you think it is heros, cuz they is what i want"

do you really think any of the ppl who spent time in this thread are going to be that inclined to help you out anymore? i still might, only cuz i am lmao over here about the situation.... but i am only an egg compared to others
 

CID143ti

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Hah...Bro...that's awesome. Anyway, has anyone thought of asking the pede? With it being collected that far south, it might speak spanish. Nice pede by the way.
 

Satellite Rob

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Hello Cacoseraph,
I not a expert on pedes and never claimed to be.I knew before I made this thread that there
were no Heros for 200 or 300 miles from were this was found.But i'm doing my
homework now and hopefully I will I be able to ID it myself after my research
is compleat.Another thing i'm not.Rude,nasty and I always try to treat people
with respect.Even if I don't agree with them.I also always try to end my post
on a positive note.So Cacoseraph thanks for your post and have a great day.

Satellite Rob
 

Satellite Rob

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Hi CID143ti,
Great post.I needed something to help release the tension.I'll give your
suggestion a try and ask her.Can't we all just get along.Thanks for the post.
I needed a laugh.Have a great day.

Satellite Rob
 

cjm1991

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Hello Cacoseraph,
I not a expert on pedes and never claimed to be.I knew before I made this thread that there
were no Heros for 200 or 300 miles from were this was found.But i'm doing my
homework now and hopefully I will I be able to ID it myself after my research
is compleat.Another thing i'm not.Rude,nasty and I always try to treat people
with respect.Even if I don't agree with them.I also always try to end my post
on a positive note.So Cacoseraph thanks for your post and have a great day.

Satellite Rob
I think you already found yourself on his ignore list, I may be wrong. You brag about things noone cares about, have a rude outlook on people who tried helping you, and it sounded like you were claiming to be more knowledgable than Turget and Caco.. IMO.

ps. Last post here
 

Oasis Inverts

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Hi
I don't know what Polymorpha you have or seen.I have never seen them.
6" is about the bigest i've seen or herd of.If you have a bigger one I would
sure like to see it.Put something next to it to compare the size with.I have about 40 pedes.But I don't have any Polymorpha.Because I don't care for
the smaller species.But if you have a big one?I would really like to see a
picture.Thanks for the post.

Satellite Rob
Heck yeah Id like to see it as well..............


I seen pete's post but Rob that pede would look better in my house...:D

See ya Tuesday.......

Later buddy
 

Satellite Rob

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Hi cjm1991,
I have nothing but respected for Turgut and he gave me to best advice.
That was to do my own research.Rick gave the same advice and I would like
to thank both of them.Turgut was right about something else.Just because I
seen alot of Polymorpha's.That doesn't make me a expert on them.Turgut I
did take your advice to heart I even tried to find some books today on
centipedes.But all I found books about basic care of pedes and thats not
what I was looking for.Turgut if you know any good books that you think
would help me.Please let me know.Cacoseraph just because I don't agree
with you.That doesn't mean I don't respect you.You being blunt today will
not make me agree with you.I'm not saying it's a Heros.I'm saying I never
seen a Polymorpha bigger than 6-1/2" and it was probably less.Over the
years i've seen hundreds from many different locations and i've yet to see
one.You posted you have some and see alot of them up to 20 cm.All I did
was to asked to see one from you or anybody else on the board.I would
concede and never bring it up again.But 20cm I can't beleave.I knew before
I made the thread that there were no known Heros from that area it was
collected.But it has about the same chance of being a heros.As it could be
a giant mutant 20 cm plus Polymorpha.I really hope someone can produce a
of a pede close to that size.Because that would make more sence.
Cacoseraph I was not trying to disrespect you today when I made my post.But
you push first and I pushed back.Well thanks again guys and have a great
weekend.


Hi Galapoheros,
I just wanted to thank you for your help with my camera.I read the manual
last night.When I woke up this morning.I had some coffee.Then tried some of
tips that were in the manual.But I had know luck.So I took my camera to the
store were I bought it and had them check it out.Well there was a problem
with the auto focus sensor.When he shut off and manual focused it.It took
beautiful pictures.Since thay had a 10 day replacement policy.Thay had to
send it to Nikon for repair or replacement and thay will call me when thay get
it back.It was only 4 month old.Thanks for taking the time to help me and
have a great weekend.

Satellite Rob
 
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Galapoheros

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Maybe you got a lemon camera. I see how people get frustrated with posts. Some people think they know 100%, and they do. Some people think they know 100% and they don't. It's human nature for most of us to want to be right and we get caught up in wanting to "be right" and almost forget what we were talking about. For instance, I have been to w tx almost every year to hunt bugs since 1985. But I have never seen a barred polymorpha over 3 inches on my hunts. I have a solid orange pede that's almost 6 inches and claimed to be polymorpha by non-scientists but I don't really know that yet until or if I sent it to a professional. Yet that one and yours "could" be a poly!". People that don't even live in tx may say things like "..oh yeah, 6 inch polys are there", but with no evidence to back it up, NONE( I welcome any)..." They just read or saw a pic of one from AZ... I think it's just natural for us to be biased and we get rid of that by talking, debating and accepting proven facts. It's hard to ignore our egos and to look at the facts but that's how we learn more. We simply don't know what your centipede is yet, don't know how to classify it yet. The truth as I see it is that nobody knows at this point. We can say it's probably this or that, eventually it needs to be sent to a professional and the best I know of here in the US is Roland Shelley.
 

Draiman

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I'm not saying it's a Heros.I'm saying I never
seen a Polymorpha bigger than 6-1/2" and it was probably less.Over the
years i've seen hundreds from many different locations and i've yet to see
one.You posted you have some and see alot of them up to 20 cm.All I did
was to asked to see one from you or anybody else on the board.I would
concede and never bring it up again.But 20cm I can't beleave.I knew before
I made the thread that there were no known Heros from that area it was
collected.But it has about the same chance of being a heros.As it could be
a giant mutant 20 cm plus Polymorpha.I really hope someone can produce a
of a pede close to that size.Because that would make more sence.
Why don't you take a picture of your mystery centipede with a ruler next to it, instead of telling people, who are trying to help you, to prove themselves? You were wondering why people were doubting your claims about your massive-scale breeding of B. smithi, so why now are you doubting reputable people who tell you Sc. polymorpha can grow up to 7-8" in certain areas?

You are clearly already convinced your centipede is a Sc. heros, when fact is, the species does not occur where you found that particular animal. You are dead set against knowledgeable people - people who provide you with facts. So what's the purpose of this thread? I believe I speak for everyone when I say this: Not only is your typing incoherent and illegible, you are also rude and boastful. Are you now still wondering why people consistently doubt your claims? The fact that they are ludicrous in the first place dpesn't help your case. Maybe if you decided to type, spell and punctuate properly, and show tact and appreciation in your posts, you would get more respect.
 
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cacoseraph

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well, i have never seen 7-8"BL in polymorpha! i *think* extreme extreme examples could get that big, maybe, though


BUT we have never actually reliably established if the 8" or with or without terminal legs, which is my big boggle. the OP's post have seemed to indicate that it is WITH. in that case the pede is probably only ~6"BL which is what *I* think is reasonable for a big polymorpha


and really, i don't necesarily think it is polymorpha, per se. i was merely pointing out that 1) i have a polymorpha of somewhat similar coloration and 2) polymorpha can get to 6"BL in my opinion and experience. that close to mexico it could maybe be something else. i don't know the specifics of what it could be. i know we can test to see if it is polymorpha or heros based on Shelley's NA book and/or the original species descriptions
 

Satellite Rob

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Hi Galapoheros,
I would like to say thanks again for your help with my camera.When I was
trying to take pictures of my Hardwickei.I was taking hundreds of pictures
and not getting a decent picture.Even the pictures I posted were not very
good.Talk about frustrating.I almost threw my camera into the wall a hundred
times.While I was at the camera store thay showed another close up camera
lens.He too some pictures of some print from a magazine.The letters were
were perfect and the size of a dime.You could even see the imperfection in
the paper.I was amazed.So when I get my camera back.I might have to bring
that lens home with me.Knowning what your doing helps alot to.I also picked
up a nice 4-1/2 inch Scolopendra Hermosa.Thats one fat little pede.I can't
beleave how wide this little pede is.I'm wondering if it's gravid or is it just well
fed.I got some other bugs today.But that was the only pede.Thats about it.
I had a good day.Well after my Polymorpha(?????Ha ha ha)dies.I'm not
laughing because it died.I will send it to Shelly to know 100% what it is.It's
the only way to know for sure.Hopefully it will live a long time.Galapoheros
have a great weekend and thanks.

Satellite Rob
 

Satellite Rob

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Hay Cacoseraph,
Do you know the name of Shelly's book or was that the name.I do regret the exchange
of words we had.If you read the last couple of post.you know I lost my
camera for a couple of weeks.But when I get it back.I will post new pictures
with a ruler next to it.I guess i'll have to buy a ruler.I do have a tape
measure.But there always a pain in the but to use.I hope theres no hard feelings and have a great weekend.

Satellite Rob
 

Lucas339

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saddly, Satellite Rob isn't with us anymore. he past away a few months back.
 
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