Singapore Blue slings

[lithiumflower9]

Couldn't wait to get some more T's. Felt incomplete with out a blue so I ordered 3! 2 for me 1 for a friend. I found an extra in the box! So 3 for me

 

[SeanJo]

Don't you just love when there's a mysterious extra T in the box? congrats on the new additions, if I had the closet space available I would have some myself, but I guess that kinda goes for every species of T I dont currently have.... :} :}

 

[Spyder 1.0]

don't use a heat source on these or too much humidity because it will kill them.

Be careful... There have been a lot of mysterious deaths of these guys over the past 2 years

 

[Draiman]

don't use a heat source on these or too much humidity because it will kill them.

Really? In Singapore and neighboring Malaysia, "hot and humid" is an understatement, and even more so in the rainforest. I keep my L. violaceopes humid (ambient humidity is already 75%+), and room temperature here is 30-31 degrees centigrade in the day and 27-28 degrees at night, and they're doing fine. :?

 

[Protectyaaaneck]

don't use a heat source on these or too much humidity because it will kill them.

Be careful... There have been a lot of mysterious deaths of these guys over the past 2 years

I have to be honest, where did you get your info?

Don't they come from a humid environment in the first place? Why would you change that in captivity? I'm pretty sure rainforest like conditions are not dry by any means.

I could be wrong too, but I think a heat source would dry the enclosure faster.

 

[Spyder 1.0]

There have been at least 4 threads, not including mine where juvenile Lampropelma violaceopes, or singapore blue (if you wish to call it that) have mysteriously died. No death curl, no signs of dehydration, nothing. Most of these cases happened under heat sources and lots of humidity. True, these spiders live in Borneo and other hot and humid places, but that doesn't mean they live in their own little micro-niches high up in cavities of trees. I'd say the majority of captive bred L.V's do better in mild temperatures under semi-humid conditions. IMO

I'm sure Sorin can back me up on this, as he has been Studying this species along with many of his colleagues, although I don't blame him if he doesn't post in this thread saying exactly what he has said time and time again.

I have 3 2.5 inch L.V's in my care at the moment and I keep them at slightly above room temperature and flood their jars once a week with a cm of water or so, which drains out of drainage holes in the bottom. Sometimes they drink the flood water but they mostly get their moisture from the crickets and roaches i power-feed them with.

Now, As I am not currently studying the actual habitat of these creatures, all this is My Own Opinion based on accounts ive read about on arachnoboards, and the opinions of the people who have done their research in the field.

As for the post i made about your P.metallica, I'm sorry that I seem to have upset you so much, but that was my opinion, not a personal shot at you in any way... Hell I'm probably not right but it looked kind-of male to me.

 

[Protectyaaaneck]

There have been at least 4 threads, not including mine where juvenile Lampropelma violaceopes, or singapore blue (if you wish to call it that) have mysteriously died. No death curl, no signs of dehydration, nothing. Most of these cases happened under heat sources and lots of humidity. True, these spiders live in Borneo and other hot and humid places, but that doesn't mean they live in their own little micro-niches high up in cavities of trees. I'd say the majority of captive bred L.V's do better in mild temperatures under semi-humid conditions. IMO

I'm sure Sorin can back me up on this, as he has been Studying this species along with many of his colleagues, although I don't blame him if he doesn't post in this thread saying exactly what he has said time and time again.

I have 3 2.5 inch L.V's in my care at the moment and I keep them at slightly above room temperature and flood their jars once a week with a cm of water or so, which drains out of drainage holes in the bottom. Sometimes they drink the flood water but they mostly get their moisture from the crickets and roaches i power-feed them with.

Now, As I am not currently studying the actual habitat of these creatures, all this is My Own Opinion based on accounts ive read about on arachnoboards, and the opinions of the people who have done their research in the field.

As for the post i made about your P.metallica, I'm sorry that I seem to have upset you so much, but that was my opinion, not a personal shot at you in any way... Hell I'm probably not right but it looked kind-of male to me.

I was only kidding about the p. metallica. Like I said give me a few more days and you shall see that it isn't male.


But thanks, I'll have to do some more searching and reading about l. violaceopes. I thought since I kept them and raised them for that long that I must have been doing something right.

 

[Spyder 1.0]

yeah i just did some searches, but didn't quite find the threads I remember reading months ago.

Here are two troubled cases

http://www.arachnoboards.com/ab/showthread.php?t=152381&highlight=Singapore

http://www.arachnoboards.com/ab/showthread.php?t=127479&highlight=Singapore

This was my thread long ago

http://www.arachnoboards.com/ab/showthread.php?t=122351

Here is one of the many quotes from Søren

Yes I know ;-) But try and take the temperature inside a hollow tree in the rain forest and you will get a lower reading ;-) There is a good bit of evapotranspiration from a tree, that helps to keep it cooler than the surroundings. This is what the spider takes advantage from in order to regulate the optimal body temperature ;-) Add to this that the lowest part of the interior of the hollow tree is usually water logged and there is often a pool of water that add to the evaporation and thus to the cooling of the interior.

There is a big difference in the mean annual climate chart and the actual readings in different microhabitats ;-)

Regards
Søren

Here is the best site right now for this species

http://asianarboreals.googlepages.com/asianarboreals

 

[Draiman]

True, these spiders live in Borneo

Umm, no, L. violaceopes does not occur in Borneo.

 

[Protectyaaaneck]

Well I'm confused....earlier you said too much humidity will kill them...but in that last post you quoted phormingochilus as to saying that the trees they live in are usually water logged. The only thing that you said that made sense was to not use a heat pad. That's allready common knowledge. From what I gather, this sp. thrives in humid conditions, it's the hot and dry conditions you have to worry about.

 

[Protectyaaaneck]

Umm, no, L. violaceopes does not occur in Borneo.

I wasn't even gonna bring that up.

 

[Draiman]

I wasn't even gonna bring that up.

Why not? Should we not correct potentially misleading information?

 

[Protectyaaaneck]

Why not? Should we not correct potentially misleading information?

This whole thread is misleading.

According to the AsianArboreals website, L. violaceopes inhabit the following places: Singapore, Riau Islands in Indonesia and the southern states of Peninsular Malaysia.

 

[Draiman]

This whole thread is misleading.

According to the AsianArboreals website, L. violaceopes inhabit the following places: Singapore, Riau Islands in Indonesia and the southern states of Peninsular Malaysia.

I don't see Borneo there. With all due respect, do you know where Borneo is?

 

[Protectyaaaneck]

I'm guessing spyderowner doesn't know. I'm not sure why he's posting links if he hansn't read them himself yet.

 

[Andy]

is that Cyriopagopus sp. "blue" or Lampropela violaceopes

 

[Spyder 1.0]

:S... I never claimed to be an expert on these animals...

 

[Protectyaaaneck]

:S... I never claimed to be an expert on these animals...

No you didn't, but you shouldn't go around posting false information, acting like you do.

 

[Spyder 1.0]

Agreed .

albeit I did bring up the true fact that A few of these animals kept in captivity by some users on this board have died, most likely from the use of heat lamps, possibly too much humidity and that they should be closely monitored until they are a decent size. Which is a fair assumption I think at least.

Yeah, I do agree that any third-hand information any of us post without any strong scientific basis should be taken Lightly with a grain of salt....

Ill remember to instill this next time around when I offer my opinions.

sorry if I have offended the great post count all knowledgeable members of this forum.

 

[Protectyaaaneck]

Post count doesn't mean you know more about T's than someone else. All it means is that you like or enjoy coming to the boards and conversing. All we did here was correct the wrong info that was being posted.