Yeah, that was me. That particular pede (Ethmostigmus rubripes) died a few months ago of unknown reasons. It was a nice looking pede, jet black and all, but I never saw it and it was small, no bigger than 4".Killer!!!:biggrin: I really really want at least one of these. When hopefully they are close to ready to go I will put a deposit down or whatever. Sort of an unrelated question. I think I remember you posting a picture of another species of Indian pede that you had that was nearly all black. Was that you and if it was any updates?