Scolopendra Kendrick
Arachnopeon
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- Jan 23, 2017
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If it is necessary I have no qualms, such as when feeding snakes. I also don't have quite the same reaction when I've seen house geckos eaten or footage of this happening in the wild, but the gratuitous feeding of mammals & their attendant suffering for entertainment is disquieting.What a IMO terrible, terrible thing. Please note: I'm not judging you at all, man, nor I want to play the 'sissy PC' part (lol, go figure) and I know that in the wild is normal, and that, for a Scolopendridae of such impressive size, a mouse is a yummy meal, but I can't not think about the pain that poor beast suffered.
Nonsense. I basically eat and always ate everything that moves from snails, frogs to donkey, rabbit, horse meat (yum horse meat) etc therefore chicken meat included, but I can guarantee that no chicken raised in our Lombardy country homes by our grandfathers, following the ancient tradition, would love to end dead by envenomation (and what a painful venom, btw). They just end their life with someone pulling their neck, lol. Then the table. But in the middle they were able to move, eat well etcOh God. I can't roll my eyes hard enough. He's not torturing it for the fun of it. He's feeding his predatory pet. I hope everyone who is so outraged about this is vegetarian, cuz if you not, the last chicken you ate probably spent its entire (and short) life in a tiny filthy box. I'd rather die from envenomation. The only problem I would have with this, if it were my scolopendra, would be if the mouse was a danger to the centipede. I am inexperienced with centipedes, so I don't know how real that danger would be.
False equivalence. Generally people don't eat complex animals capable of feeling pain & something approximating distress/fear while still living. We have the ability to dispatch the animal mercifully, whereas the centipede does not. I can't imagine why anyone would intentionally inflict suffering.Oh God. I can't roll my eyes hard enough. He's not torturing it for the fun of it. He's feeding his predatory pet. I hope everyone who is so outraged about this is vegetarian, cuz if you not, the last chicken you ate probably spent its entire (and short) life in a tiny filthy box. I'd rather die from envenomation. The only problem I would have with this, if it were my scolopendra, would be if the mouse was a danger to the centipede. I am inexperienced with centipedes, so I don't know how real that danger would be.
I am not centipede expert, so I have a question. What benefit does it provide the centipede to eat live mice?To all whom I've offended your delicate sensibilities, I apologize. But a few things to say. It was long gone before the centipede even began eating due to paralysis.
Don't tell me about animal cruelty, I don't even eat meat. Most of you going on and on probably stuff you faces full of meat. If you want to talk about cruelty, check out what you eat. Take a second and watch Blood of the Beast (1959) it's on YouTube.
I feel feeding pre killed vertebrates is no different than feeding live vertebrates. Either way they die. You buy these mice to feed and for no other reason. No one gets there panties in a knot over snakes eating live and most of the time if they are non venomous snakes they strangle, but I've seen my snakes swallow still alive rodents. You guys will say it's ok to feed a live pinkie to snakes that don't even measure up to the mass of centipedes!!!! Can't feed a invert a vertebrate because it's a invert.. pfff. IT HAS MORE MASS THAN ALOT OF SNAKES.
In addition how is a crickets life any different than a mouses life? I bet people with the larger pet crickets would be pissed of you fed them to an animal.
This mouse was out within 10 seconds of the first bite. OUT. So it didn't suffer anything.
If anything go attack someone who feeds their monitors live rodents and they shred them to pieces while they are still concious. OHH BUT YOU WONT BECAUSE ITS OK BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT INVERTS.
Adult centipedes get so much more from feeding off of vertebrates. A lot of experienced keepers know this. This is a pretty massive specimen and I plan on making it larger.
NONE OF THIS WAS FOR ENTERTAINMENT!
But I know the the rush and excitement all keepers get when feeding feeding any animal. Taking pictures of the guts of crickets is ok though?
It's not like I threw a mouse in the tank to get a kick out of it.
Lastly I've owned many species of scolopendra and they by far act more natural, healthy and less stressed out when eating less meals that are of greater size. This specific one eats about every three weeks to a month. Very active. Very large and healthy without over feeding.
The species I've owned and only feed roaches or crickets to do not seem as healthy. Yeah they might be fine. And great they can live just fine off of just crickets. But if you could have an animal that acted healthier and looked significantly better while also reaching larger sizes I'd feed it mice every time.
In addition these fuzzy mice are sooooooooo weak compared to a centipede that there is almost a zero chance of it hurting my centipede.
I would never risk doing this on a younger centipede. I also don't do this for all of my centipedes. I like studying the behavior with different eating patterns. This particular one is the only one in my collection I'm feeding mice every time and this one was the first time that it was a live mouse, not a f/t. THATS WHY I DOCUMENTED IT. All my other species I switch it up. Crickets, roaches, etc.
To those who have instagram check out chrisweeets posts. He is one of the best keepers I know of. He usually always feeds live and has beautiful specimens that are super healthy.
At the end of the day. They are my animals.
You can try and dress it up how you want. There's NO benefit for the pede killing/eating live vertebrates. NONE. There was absolutely nothing stopping you from tapping the mouse and killing it INSTANTLY. The pede wouldn't have known or cared a jot.To all whom I've offended your delicate sensibilities, I apologize. But a few things to say. It was long gone before the centipede even began eating due to paralysis.
Don't tell me about animal cruelty, I don't even eat meat. Most of you going on and on probably stuff you faces full of meat. If you want to talk about cruelty, check out what you eat. Take a second and watch Blood of the Beast (1959) it's on YouTube.
I feel feeding pre killed vertebrates is no different than feeding live vertebrates. Either way they die. You buy these mice to feed and for no other reason. No one gets there panties in a knot over snakes eating live and most of the time if they are non venomous snakes they strangle, but I've seen my snakes swallow still alive rodents. You guys will say it's ok to feed a live pinkie to snakes that don't even measure up to the mass of centipedes!!!! Can't feed a invert a vertebrate because it's a invert.. pfff. IT HAS MORE MASS THAN ALOT OF SNAKES.
In addition how is a crickets life any different than a mouses life? I bet people with the larger pet crickets would be pissed of you fed them to an animal.
This mouse was out within 10 seconds of the first bite. OUT. So it didn't suffer anything.
If anything go attack someone who feeds their monitors live rodents and they shred them to pieces while they are still concious. OHH BUT YOU WONT BECAUSE ITS OK BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT INVERTS.
Adult centipedes get so much more from feeding off of vertebrates. A lot of experienced keepers know this. This is a pretty massive specimen and I plan on making it larger.
NONE OF THIS WAS FOR ENTERTAINMENT!
But I know the the rush and excitement all keepers get when feeding feeding any animal. Taking pictures of the guts of crickets is ok though?
It's not like I threw a mouse in the tank to get a kick out of it.
Lastly I've owned many species of scolopendra and they by far act more natural, healthy and less stressed out when eating less meals that are of greater size. This specific one eats about every three weeks to a month. Very active. Very large and healthy without over feeding.
The species I've owned and only feed roaches or crickets to do not seem as healthy. Yeah they might be fine. And great they can live just fine off of just crickets. But if you could have an animal that acted healthier and looked significantly better while also reaching larger sizes I'd feed it mice every time.
In addition these fuzzy mice are sooooooooo weak compared to a centipede that there is almost a zero chance of it hurting my centipede.
I would never risk doing this on a younger centipede. I also don't do this for all of my centipedes. I like studying the behavior with different eating patterns. This particular one is the only one in my collection I'm feeding mice every time and this one was the first time that it was a live mouse, not a f/t. THATS WHY I DOCUMENTED IT. All my other species I switch it up. Crickets, roaches, etc.
To those who have instagram check out chrisweeets posts. He is one of the best keepers I know of. He usually always feeds live and has beautiful specimens that are super healthy.
At the end of the day. They are my animals.
Well, that answers that. If it's not for the centipede's benefit, for whose benefit is it?You can try and dress it up how you want. There's NO benefit for the pede killing/eating live vertebrates. NONE. There was absolutely nothing stopping you from tapping the mouse and killing it INSTANTLY. The pede wouldn't have known or cared a jot.
See that if you have read (which I'm sure you did) my first comment I've said that I'm not judging you at all, man. And it's true, you can offer what you want to your animals u_uTo all whom I've offended your delicate sensibilities, I apologize. But a few things to say. It was long gone before the centipede even began eating due to paralysis.
Don't tell me about animal cruelty, I don't even eat meat. Most of you going on and on probably stuff you faces full of meat. If you want to talk about cruelty, check out what you eat. Take a second and watch Blood of the Beast (1959) it's on YouTube.
I feel feeding pre killed vertebrates is no different than feeding live vertebrates. Either way they die. You buy these mice to feed and for no other reason. No one gets there panties in a knot over snakes eating live and most of the time if they are non venomous snakes they strangle, but I've seen my snakes swallow still alive rodents. You guys will say it's ok to feed a live pinkie to snakes that don't even measure up to the mass of centipedes!!!! Can't feed a invert a vertebrate because it's a invert.. pfff. IT HAS MORE MASS THAN ALOT OF SNAKES.
In addition how is a crickets life any different than a mouses life? I bet people with the larger pet crickets would be pissed of you fed them to an animal.
This mouse was out within 10 seconds of the first bite. OUT. So it didn't suffer anything.
If anything go attack someone who feeds their monitors live rodents and they shred them to pieces while they are still concious. OHH BUT YOU WONT BECAUSE ITS OK BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT INVERTS.
Adult centipedes get so much more from feeding off of vertebrates. A lot of experienced keepers know this. This is a pretty massive specimen and I plan on making it larger.
NONE OF THIS WAS FOR ENTERTAINMENT!
But I know the the rush and excitement all keepers get when feeding feeding any animal. Taking pictures of the guts of crickets is ok though?
It's not like I threw a mouse in the tank to get a kick out of it.
Lastly I've owned many species of scolopendra and they by far act more natural, healthy and less stressed out when eating less meals that are of greater size. This specific one eats about every three weeks to a month. Very active. Very large and healthy without over feeding.
The species I've owned and only feed roaches or crickets to do not seem as healthy. Yeah they might be fine. And great they can live just fine off of just crickets. But if you could have an animal that acted healthier and looked significantly better while also reaching larger sizes I'd feed it mice every time.
In addition these fuzzy mice are sooooooooo weak compared to a centipede that there is almost a zero chance of it hurting my centipede.
I would never risk doing this on a younger centipede. I also don't do this for all of my centipedes. I like studying the behavior with different eating patterns. This particular one is the only one in my collection I'm feeding mice every time and this one was the first time that it was a live mouse, not a f/t. THATS WHY I DOCUMENTED IT. All my other species I switch it up. Crickets, roaches, etc.
To those who have instagram check out chrisweeets posts. He is one of the best keepers I know of. He usually always feeds live and has beautiful specimens that are super healthy.
At the end of the day. They are my animals.