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I have no idea how this works. So do i pay pal the person money then they ship it or what. I am trying to buy there but have no idea how so could someone please explain it to me.
There are scammers out there.. So be careful.. If its sounds to good to be true.. It probably is.. Always! Always look at reviews... If the seller does not have any.. Be very cautious! Buying things is at your own risk...
Yeah.. You can always go & get a reloadable CC (credit card) from where ever you get them from.. Load the cost on it.. The pay to the sellers paypal.. I forgot to name that as a possible way..Actually the "payer" doesn't have to have a paypal account, the "payee" does, naturally. I agree paypal is much more secure.
Don't pay the extra. It's against paypal's rules to require the buyer to absorb the cost of the paypal charge. An honest seller would not ask a buyer to pay extra to cover what is supposed to be their charge, and would not ask you to send it as a gift to avoid paying it. Just my 2 cents...If you do use PayPal, send the money as a transaction for goods/services, if you send it as a gift then you will waive your rights to PayPal's protection, so just pay the extra and take the hit for the transaction fees, otherwise you'll have zero comeback through PayPal.
PayPal's rules hold little weight when you're dealing with a private transaction on a third party site.Don't pay the extra. It's against paypal's rules to require the buyer to absorb the cost of the paypal charge. An honest seller would not ask a buyer to pay extra to cover what is supposed to be their charge, and would not ask you to send it as a gift to avoid paying it. Just my 2 cents...
Sounds like Paypal runs a bit differently in the states. As a purchaser, I have never paid the fees... As a seller, I always eat the fees. I figure the couple of bucks is well worth the extra convenience.PayPal's rules hold little weight when you're dealing with a private transaction on a third party site.
A lot of people on forums, etc, list the prices expecting the payment to be sent as a gift, so they get the amount they listed, but if he's a little nervous, it's well worth just paying the extra, instead of waiving any of PayPal's protection, or missing out on a good deal.
If the seller has taken fees into consideration, etc, then of course don't pay the fees for them, but if they want it sent as a gift because they haven't offset the fees in their listed price, then just pay the fees if you want a little peace of mind and don't want to miss out on the deal.
I've personally been a member of few communities where the accepted convention isn't to send payments as a gift to save/make everyone involved a little extra.Sounds like Paypal runs a bit differently in the states. As a purchaser, I have never paid the fees... As a seller, I always eat the fees. I figure the couple of bucks is well worth the extra convenience.
If I am purchasing from someone I don't know. I make them send me a money request and indicate what it is I am buying. that way once I pay, I am protected by paypal if something doesn't go right.
You think people are acting in orchestrated sedition towards PayPal?Sounds more like a way to rip off paypal... not a trust thing.
I'll agree with Opiate on this. PayPal is a business, not a charity. They facilitate other businesses, and have a right to charge for their services. This "nurturing a tight community" seems to really be "nurturing an unethical community". And this is on topic - since Jacob is asking for advice on conducting business with us, promoting ethical business practices is good advice for him. (I always feel better dealing with honest people - and I don't feel that makes me cynical.)You think people are acting in orchestrated sedition towards PayPal?
Rather than wanting to help out like minded individuals (to the detriment of their own stake if things go sour) and nurture a tight community, a trait that's especially pervasive in niche hobbies/activities.
Very cynical of you.
I feel this becoming extraneous now though, we should maybe keep it on topic with posts related to assisting Jacob in his transactions
PayPal is a business, yes, and this is why when transacting as a gift, you receive the bare minimum, the transfer of funds, you don't reap the benefits of their other services and resources, this is why they offer such a service.I'll agree with Opiate on this. PayPal is a business, not a charity. They facilitate other businesses, and have a right to charge for their services. This "nurturing a tight community" seems to really be "nurturing an unethical community". And this is on topic - since Jacob is asking for advice on conducting business with us, promoting ethical business practices is good advice for him. (I always feel better dealing with honest people - and I don't feel that makes me cynical.)
It's not foolish at all. The gift option is for a GIFT, not a PURCHASE. I am happy to have paypal as a payment option - again, it's a business and that's how they fund their business and are able to provide their services. I eat the small cost when I sell something online because I'd much rather have immediate payment than wait for a check or something that may never show up. I don't think it's fair that people that use Paypal properly end up having to pay for all the services that people like you make use of.PayPal is a business, yes, and this is why when transacting as a gift, you receive the bare minimum, the transfer of funds, you don't reap the benefits of their other services and resources, this is why they offer such a service.
It's a very foolish view to think that 'Gift' is some sort of underhanded loophole facilitated by dishonest traders, it's merely one of the many levels of services that PayPal offer, you're doing them out of nothing.
Your one extremely wordy, run-on sentence is hard to follow. My response will be more clear.Maybe I have the wrong impression of this forum, but it struck me as the sort of close knit and endearing community that would perpetuate these faculties to its best ability, and this (in my vast experience of web communities) may result in a lot of deals being transacted as gifts (hence advising Jacob about the intricacies of this) especially in such niche areas, just to help each other out, however small the monetary amount, it is the environment that has borne such a level of trust that such behaviour is the convention, to the end that the default position is to trust everyone, not to be cynical and suspicious, which is the important thing, not the monetary gains which you seem to have unreasonably vilified as dishonest and other negative traits.
Not only have you taken my original well intended advice out of context and misconstrued it as something sinister, you've also further misunderstood my postings and created a straw man.You telling a new person that they should be trusting of anyone they don't know just because they are part of the same online community is irresponsible.