TarantulaBob
Arachnopeon
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- Mar 16, 2017
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Are they in a hot room, how big are the Ts
1 1/2 inches. My Animal room is 80-82 degrees. Idk how large the b albo is but its maybe 3/4 of an inch.Are they in a hot room, how big are the Ts
Sorry for your tarantula losses. I have lost a couple of tarantulas during shipping. I don't know what killed mine since the package wasn't delayed. But it is a bummer to lose them regardless of the cause.Package arrived. They even gave me a freebie b albo, but everything is completely dead. I should have waited to ship i feel like an idiot.
No movement at all but not in a proper death curl. The seller told me to give it 48 hours and if theres no life he will replace them for me. I think that was very nice of them. I said if we do that we will hold out for a few weeks for some warmer temps. Spring should be around the corner.I say keep them warm leave it another night and stay cool. Are thy in the death curl have they moved at all
If it gets caught on a truck in a snow storm no amount of packing is going to save them from long term cold exposure. A heat pack and insulation will only take you so far.I always order them from the spider shop great packaging
When a tarantula freezes it doesn't death curl. At least the one I recieved, after getting held up by snow a few years back, didn't. It was just laid out like normal. I got one in that died from impact damage oince and it wasn't curled either.Good that there not in a death curl
I'm glad they are going to replace them for you.No movement at all but not in a proper death curl. The seller told me to give it 48 hours and if theres no life he will replace them for me. I think that was very nice of them. I said if we do that we will hold out for a few weeks for some warmer temps. Spring should be around the corner.
i'm so sorry you have to go through this...
Really nice of the seller to send replacements, a good idea to wait a little longer.
You couldn't have known this weather was coming up and that Fedex would hold your package. So it is not your fault at all, just as the seller wasn't at fault either.
Crap circumstances and bad luck is all it is. But i understand you feel like crap, i would too. You'll just have to make it up by taking extra good care of your other and future spiders
There will always be a little risk when shipping live anything. We just have to do our best to minimize it as much as we can.It's a mistake I refuse to make again. I'm excited for new spiders in light of these sad events.
Sure if one is a drug dealer.Bah! Easy problem to solve. Just make more money!
I'm aware of Shift in Liability. It's something I don't agree with, the info above. It's nothing more than corporations unwilling to accept responsibility in my opinion.I'm basing this from a supplier perspective. Once cash has been transferred, it's no longer the seller's property - the buyer has taken possession of it, even if they don't have it yet. There's a concept in supply chain networking called Shift in Liability; in essence, the supplier can suggest certain aspect, but it's up to the buyer to adhere to them. The buyer has certain aspects of doing business that create liability, and they want to unburden themselves of them as quickly as possible. This is especially true once funds have traded hands. These aspects are usually passively outlined in some kind of guarantee (in this case, the LAG). It's impossible for the buyer to unload all liabilities even after the sale, but the vast majority of responsibility is shifted to the customer once payment is received. For instance, if a buyer orders a set of computer chips from a seller, then those chips are obviously fragile. However, if the buyer has them delivered to a plant whose only inlet is a bumpy dirt road, then some of the chips will be damaged and the liability has shifted to the buyer.
A much simpler way to look at it is this. A buyer gave cash to the seller, so it's no longer the seller's property. The buyer literally told the seller what to do with their items, and the seller did as they were told. It's not the seller's responsibility to negotiate the buyer's demands - truth be told, the seller got the cash, so what happens to the product is inconsequential at that point.
And yes, I understand that we're talking about live animals and not computer chips. But from a financial point of view, a product is a product. There is no difference.
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Citation: Coyle, J. J., Langley, C. J., Novack, R. A., & Gibson, B. J. (2017). Supply chain management: a logistics perspective. Boston, MA: Cengage Learning.
Corporations? Are we talking about a different subject or are we talking about breeders who mostly do this as a second job? If we make them liable for the weather in our local destinations, the price of each tarantula just went up another $10 - $25 in some cases.I'm aware of Shift in Liability. It's something I don't agree with, the info above. It's nothing more than corporations unwilling to accept responsibility in my opinion.