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Discussion in 'Tarantula Chat' started by Salt, Jan 23, 2011.

  1. Salt

    Salt Arachnopeon

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    Heh, I'm odd like that. I'm happy to euthanise animals, but I'm a vegetarian and hate chewing flesh (I just don't like chewing anything that once, I feel, had a personality).
     
  2. Merfolk

    Merfolk Arachnoprince Old Timer

    Well, if this is your criteria, some people would qualify for getting cannibalized! :wicked::wicked:

    ---------- Post added at 04:23 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:20 PM ----------

    Speaking of overall cruelty, we had a huge debate here on beaver and weasel trapping for pelts. New traps must kill within seconds.
     
  3. Salt

    Salt Arachnopeon

    Hahahaha, bloody right. :razz:
     
  4. ArachnoYak

    ArachnoYak Arachnoknight

    Hate to break it to you, but plants are living things too and killing them and extinguishing their life makes you no more righteous than anyone that chooses to eat meat.

    +10
     
  5. Salt

    Salt Arachnopeon

    Whoa big boy. Calm down. I said "I don't like chewing anything that once had a personality." Vegetation my be alive but it sure as hell isn't conscious and doesn't have a personality. For that, they'd need brains.
     
  6. Venom

    Venom Arachnoprince Old Timer

    If you ask me, this is an example of going waaay overboard in the "Let's regulate everything!!" brand of socialism that the UK and Europe have, unfortunately, bought into. You know what? It brings about STUPIDITY like this!!!

    Animals get eaten painfully in the wild all the time. Who are they going to prosecute for THAT little fact?!?
     
  7. Salt

    Salt Arachnopeon

    Absolutely but I can also respect their point of view. There's a big difference between putting a mouse in a small enclusure with a tarantula and zero chance of escape, and prey in the wild which do have a fighting chance of survival.

    But, I also see the opposing argument. Tarantulas, reptiles etc do enjoy live food and it's part of their natural diet anyway?

    Either way, it is the way it is.
     
  8. Blackbeard

    Blackbeard Arachnopeon

    This soft bullcrap has been creeping into the general mentality in my country for years now.
    I have never kept and slaughtered farm animals myself but my grandfather and and several uncles kept animals like chickens, rabbits and ducks which they slaughtered themselves from time to time.
    If I were to tell my colleagues at the office that I killed a chicken or rabbit out of my own pen or yard they would look at me as if I were a dangerous madman.

    What am I saying? I can't even tell them I went fishing past sunday without getting angry remarks concerning animal cruelty and that's before mentioning live bait.
    I am not adverse to hunting for sport perse as long as the meat and fur are are consumed and used but it has become less accepted than devil worshiping over here so even game keepers are getting bad flak.

    I wish I was born 40 years ago.
     
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  9. Merfolk

    Merfolk Arachnoprince Old Timer

    It's a regional thing. Like, we have a joke here in Quebec, about people in Montreal (our 2 million ppl metropolis, the rest is pretty much subburbs and forests).

    The joke goas this way : "How do you know you are entering an urban area in Quebec?"
    -In the hunting season, when you come back with your deer strapped to your car hood, it's the point on the road where people crossing you start showing you the finger!"

    Like, most of our rural population are hunters, and a whole bunch of urban people wish to abolish hunting. Some of the latter can spend 10 years without setting foot in an urban area because of clashes like this! You can't have a clearer divide than that!!!
     
  10. It's a sad fact, but large swathes of the populations of "developed" countries have become increasingly disconnected from the sources of their food and it seems to be getting worse. Like those crazy polls you hear about where ridiculously high percentages of schoolchildren think milk is made in supermarkets and beef comes from McDonalds! :wall:
     
  11. I still think its sad, comical almost how disconnected people become sometimes when they just aren't in touch with something anymore. Where you food comes from or peoples understanding of life and death. I grew up on a farm where we slaughtered our own animals and went hunting for food, I hadn't even eaten beef until I had moved into a major city. And your understanding that you are eating a meal with of an animal that had been alive and on your land a days beforehand and you had fed, cared for, interacted with and even named makes a large difference of appreciation and different respect and value of life.

    It just reminds me of a petition that had been once read to me by my chemistry teacher about the ban of DiHydrogen Monoxide. And it proceeded to give a large list of reasons why it should be banned, not understanding what it really was. Later putting up statements of people stating they thought it was appalling why they wouldn't have already banned this and its a horrible thing.

    Dihydrogen monoxide:
    is called "hydroxyl acid",
    the substance is the major component of acid rain.
    contributes to the "greenhouse effect".
    may cause severe burns.
    is fatal if inhaled.
    contributes to the erosion of our natural landscape.
    accelerates corrosion and rusting of many metals.
    may cause electrical failures
    and decreased effectiveness of automobile brakes.
    has been found in excised tumors of terminal cancer patients.

    Despite the danger, dihydrogen monoxide is often used:
    as an industrial solvent and coolant.
    in nuclear power plants.
    in the production of Styrofoam.
    as a fire retardant.
    in many forms of cruel animal research.
    in the distribution of pesticides.
    Even after washing, produce remains contaminated by this chemical.
    as an additive in certain "junk-foods" and other food products.
     
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