P. vespertinus ?

[MrT]

About 8 months ago I posted this T in a thread.
And it was decided that it may be a Pamphobeteus.
Well, its molted a couple times, so I thought I'd show it again, in hopes of finding out what it really is.
It never burrows, and eats like a hog.
Thanks for any help.


Ernie

 

[Telson]

my best guess...

Lasiodora parahybana ?

 

[kellygirl]

Re: my best guess...

Originally posted by Telson
Lasiodora parahybana ?

Doubt it... it's got that "bloom" on the carapace which probably was what clued Ernie into it possibly being a Pampho. Wish I could help!

kellygirl

 

[Steve Nunn]

Hi Ernie,
Have you been able to source where this spider came from?? I'd say most likely Lasiodorides species, maybe L.striatus. The other known spider from that genus, L.polycuspulatus has blonde setae on all legs from the patella down to the tarsus (however, has a strong gold sheen to the carapace like yours). The interesting thing is I'm not sure if L.striatus gets as much of a gold sheen to it's carapace as your specimen has. Forget L.rollini, crap description and most likely just a synonym for one of the other Lasiodorides spp.

Cheers,
Steve

 

[Aviculariinae]

It looks like an aphonopelma sp could be a regional colour form of A seemanni, But the colour of the carapace is strange!:?

 

[vulpina]

Steve, you think a Lasiodora? Not a Pampho of some sort? My guess would be a Pampho.

Andy

 

[Tim R.]

I don't know if this will help at all but here's a couple pics of my female L. Striatus. She does have a bit of a "bloom" on the carapace.

This one was taken before her much needed molt occured.

 

[Tangled WWWeb]

Re: Re: P. vespertinus ?

Originally posted by Steve Nunn
Hi Ernie,
Have you been able to source where this spider came from?? I'd say most likely Lasiodorides species, maybe L.striatus. The other known spider from that genus, L.polycuspulatus has blonde setae on all legs from the patella down to the tarsus (however, has a strong gold sheen to the carapace like yours). The interesting thing is I'm not sure if L.striatus gets as much of a gold sheen to it's carapace as your specimen has. Forget L.rollini, crap description and most likely just a synonym for one of the other Lasiodorides spp.

Cheers,
Steve

I am inclined to go with Steve on the Lasiodorides guess.

Steve, you raise an interesting point about the gold sheen on L. striatus. Bryan (Cronoss) has a large female specimen that we both believed to be L. striatus(and was sold to him as such) until it molted. It is now virtually identical to the several L. polycuspulatus that we have in our respective collections. Could this be just an odd molt? Has anyone heard of hybridizations between these two species?

John

 

[Steve Nunn]

Re: Re: Re: P. vespertinus ?

Originally posted by JP version 1.0
Could this be just an odd molt? Has anyone heard of hybridizations between these two species?

Hi John,
This is such a new genus, ID'd by the large number of cuspules on the labium (hence the name "polycuspulatus", given to the type species of the genus). I'd imagine there might be some specimens that are either colour variations of either species or possibly a new species in the genus. It is known that L.polycuspulatus shows quite some colour variation depending on how it's kept (regarding humidity levels), maybe this is what you guys are seeing??

Before Lasiodorides was discovered, L.striatus started out it's identified life as Pamphobeteus wallacei in 1996, so I'm not surprised Ernie's spider looks like a pampho, this genus is closely related.

To Vulpina, I think Lasiodorides, not Lasiodora.

Cheers,
Steve

 

[Midwest Art]

P. vespertinus

Here's a pic of a 1 1/2" spiderling that has since shed to 3" Even as spiderlings you can see the "painted" carapace and red abdominal hairs. This is a very distinctive spider as an adult.

N-Joy
Art

 

[phoenixxavierre]

I don't know what it is, but it sure is purty!!

Sorry I can't help you with the id. Beautiful specimen, though!

Paul

 

[vulpina]

Thanks Steve for the info, I was just wondering about it being a Pampho.

Andy