OMG maybe a first ever!!!

[Tescos]

well Talkenlate04 glad to see you never dissapoint me.

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Cheers
Chris

 

[Nerri1029]

this is a good thread, and the topic is one worthy of discussion.

PLAY NICE gentlemen


MY Comments:

I see a risk of damage to the spermathecae from "shaky" hands

I do like the idea of an embolus affixed to a pipett, maybe glued on to a very thin transfer bulb pipett, so as to cushion the injection force.

I also agree with the issue/problem of propagating T's with a trait of being difficult to breed, or that they have little reproductive drive.

ALL IN ALL worthy of more research.
( that means scientific research, anecdotal goes only so far )

 

[frtysxan2]

if you guys ever figure out how to artificial inseminate a t. i have a suggestion. if you have not already thought of it, there is a good way to keep the female still to do the insemination on NWI page. dean calls it a handy device for working on injured tarantulas. it is a wooden device with two glass sliding windows on each side.

also (im sure this was said in some way prior to my reply) what if the female has to be turned on or have an erection of sorts and won't take otherwise?

as for the sperm being alive in a state of suspended animation. sperm is alive right? all living things respond to stimuli (i.e. temp, touch, really any change in the cell's environment) so if it is not dead it should change in some way.

i also read a while back that spider sperm is different from any other sperm on the planet. so this may come into play with reproduction. the article was on the ATS web site so i'm sure it is, but i don't know how trustworthy the info was but that is what it said. here is the link: http://www.atshq.org/articles/Regeneration.pdf

well that is my input hope this stuff continues, keep us updated.

Jon

 

[ZergFront]

Bravo on This Thread!

This has got to be one of the most interesting threads I've read all week. (Thumbs up) :clap:

I don't know how, but some of you made T rape comments funny(?) Maybe I should go see someone.....

Anyway, this is deffinately a thread I will watch. If we learn about AI of T's or just the nature of their sperm and egg (big spiders are just obviously easier) this could help us understand all arachnids a little more.

To the OP, I hope you can tell us later you got a good sac from your "violated" T. JK! X-D

 

[Talkenlate04]

A thread from the grave!

I don't know if I ever added this,but the female mated here did produce a good sac.

 

[Dave]

Just saw the vid. That was great!! Has any more research gone into these breeding methods?

 

[BigBryan]

Just saw the vid. That was great!! Has any more research gone into these breeding methods?

theres a video? what page? i didnt see one.

 

[ric]

mating

try feeding the female right before you put the male in,keeps her busy while he does his work.it's worked for me.

 

[CobbyNobby]

Nice job on the spider rape guy!:clap:

 

[J.huff23]

theres a video? what page? i didnt see one.

Yea, where is the video? I gotta see it.

 

[Dave]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thu46EMx6VE

 

[cacoseraph]

i like this thread for two reasons

1) ryan developed a new way of mating spiders that might be of use to me and others in the future (ever thought about CO2'ing the female to mate her? or for that matter both... makes me wish i had lots of mature tarantulas to play with)

2) i get to see what ppl make idiotic comments and add them to my ignore list

 

[Protectyaaaneck]

2) i get to see what ppl make idiotic comments and add them to my ignore list

Lol!

I like this thread too.

 

[robc]

I like this idea ryan :clap: ....correct me if I am wrong:

1. when you have a very rare SP you could use 1 MM to get multiple eggsacs from multiple females without risking the death of the MM and not being able to find another. I think this a great idea....I thought I saw a vid of yours on youtube doing this? Maby I didn't . You seem very excited about it....and i can tell you I would be.....but if you make the video I would put a strong warning in there so we don't have young kids trying to do it LOL

 

[jme]

this is an amazing idea and also a great learning experience more threads like this should take up the Tarantula Announcement area , and not so much fluff

congrats on the discovery and good luck in the future :clap:

 

[ZergFront]

Lol!

A thread from the grave!

Yeah, that's what happens when you make a reply to a thread you found using the search bar.

 

[Dave]

I'd say this thread needs to stay active. The more brain storming, the closer we get to a workable system that could change the hobby as we know it!
Just think, 20 female balfouri successfully bred with just a couple of males?!
Or a pair of H. hercules found and the threat of the male dying in copulation removed?! (Note-These examples are meant to inspire, please don't condemn!)

 

[Skullptor]

just a thought since this thread popped back up... since you were talking about using pipettes and what not.... what if you some how made a mold of the males bulb to use for the end of the pipette... ... if it was to actually work then you could have a pipette for each species... just a thought that ran across my head.

Ha. This is an interesting thread and the above is an interesting point- at least to me it is because it is similar to something I have done in the past. I am very familiar with the durometer scale, and being a prototyper I am familiar with matching materials for the needs of the prototype. I have made arteries to medical standards for practicing non-invasive surgeries.

However, this may prove much more difficult than something static like a fake artery. Understanding the full function of the organ would be a must. I read about the "lock & key" type of function by another poster. If it has to be maneuvered into place, that may pose a problem. As well as it being an organ that discharges may prove difficult. If you simply cannot "dip and insert" then a static replication would not work. I enjoyed the thread and this is just my $.02

 

[cacoseraph]

found this will looking for something else. didn't read it yet, but it seems like it might be interesting


Evolutionary Transformation From Muscular to Hydraulic Movements in Spider (Arachnida, Araneae) Genitalia: a Study Based on Histological Serial Sections


ah crap lousy... there is a version for free online but i just lost the link :/