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wasnt so much having lions and tigers I was worried about. They want to take big reptiles away and once they get that they will go after small reptiles and insects. Part of that whole deal had to do with Peta which is a terrorist organization if you ask me. Not much thought was put into it at all.
They are supposed to be unconscious or "brain dead" at that point. When done properly, they don't feel a thing.and the way the cattle and hogs are hung upside down and their neck is slit, and they bleed to death
Actually, the deal was with the HSUS, which is worst than PETA if you ask me. At least PETA is up-front about wanting to end all animal ownership, while the HSUS lies and uses their deceptive ads to make people think that they just want to end animal cruelty, even though they DO include animal breeding and ownership in that definition of "cruelty". HSUS also does employ known members of the terrorist organization, ALF, so the terrorism connection is very real, and being funded by well-meaning animal lovers who think that their $19.99 monthly donation is helping homeless and abused animals in shelters.wasnt so much having lions and tigers I was worried about. They want to take big reptiles away and once they get that they will go after small reptiles and insects. Part of that whole deal had to do with Peta which is a terrorist organization if you ask me. Not much thought was put into it at all.
With the exception of Kosher butchering and its Muslim equivalent, livestock in US slaughterhouses are always rendered unconscious with the use of a stun bolt before being bled. They do not feel a thing, and even in Kosher slaughter, the immediate loss of blood to the brain from having both carotid arteries and the jugular veins severed simultaneously results in loss of consciousness within less than two seconds.that if it ever happened would be one law that i wouldnt be abbiding by...especially the insects....i do see Peta's point somewhat....look at the videos on their website that shows fur farms here in america, and how they kill the animals is either by smacking their head off the ground, or stepping on their neck and choking them to death...im mean come on a box of 500 .22 shells is like 15 bucks.....and the way the cattle and hogs are hung upside down and their neck is slit, and they bleed to death...its really pathetic....would love to get my hands on some of those people and take em miles back in the woods to places i only know exist.....
They are supposed to be unconscious or "brain dead" at that point. When done properly, they don't feel a thing.
Actually, the deal was with the HSUS, which is worst than PETA if you ask me. At least PETA is up-front about wanting to end all animal ownership, while the HSUS lies and uses their deceptive ads to make people think that they just want to end animal cruelty, even though they DO include animal breeding and ownership in that definition of "cruelty". HSUS also does employ known members of the terrorist organization, ALF, so the terrorism connection is very real, and being funded by well-meaning animal lovers who think that their $19.99 monthly donation is helping homeless and abused animals in shelters.
You are absolutely right about the "trickle-down" effect-when bans against one kind of animal are implemented, this opens the door to adding others. HSUS is clear on one thing-they absolutely want to end ALL ownership and trade in reptiles, regardless of size, whether it's a Burmese Python or a Bearded Dragon, and a ban on "dangerous" reptiles and other "exotics" often does include "venomous" inverts, regardless of whether the venom is of any medical significance to humans or not.
pitbulllady
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With the exception of Kosher butchering and its Muslim equivalent, livestock in US slaughterhouses are always rendered unconscious with the use of a stun bolt before being bled. They do not feel a thing, and even in Kosher slaughter, the immediate loss of blood to the brain from having both carotid arteries and the jugular veins severed simultaneously results in loss of consciousness within less than two seconds.
Fur farm animals are killed using the same technique I've often used to dispatch feeder rats and rabbits, one which severs the first cervical vertebra and kills immediately if properly done, either that or they are put down with CO2, which is how large-scale rodent breeders dispatch rodents for freezing and shipping. PETA has been known to "doctor" videos and to actually pay people to deliberately torture animals; this has already been proven in the case of the "live skinning" videos from China. PETA kills virtually every animal they get their vile hands on, and nothing is below them when it comes to publicity and convincing the public that everyone who makes use of animals and animal products is evil.
pitbulllady
Well, that's partly because of Carole Baskin's hypocritical stance - selling and breeding wild life while keeping it in poor conditions and posing as a "sanctuary" while fighting against keeping exotic animals. She's already tried to get a couple bans approved and I don't know of any that have yet but there could be some. She once complained about how some "big cats" (actually they were sand cats and bobcats) owned by one keeper are being kept in large dog igloos. At the same time, she had "the same igloos in her own pens," they were not ellivated AND they would become flooded with rain water in Florida weather. The shelters were either at ground level or slightly below. One was a large drainage tunnel and it easily became wet and muddy.Now I know most of keep reptiles but we should be worrying about the big cat community as well. I have a friend that keeps big cats and they're going through the same type of media attacks as the reptile community does. Heck, they even had an incredibly biased documentary put out that pretty much attacks big cat owners though the director denies having an agenda.
:clap::clap: So you know about the sanctimonious scamtuaries! Pretty much all of her animals have some concocted rescue story when most were actually purchased from breeders and from loving homes. Baskin is a cancer on the exotic community but she's not the only one.Well, that's partly because of Carole Baskin's hypocritical stance - selling and breeding wild life while keeping it in poor conditions and posing as a "sanctuary" while fighting against keeping exotic animals. She's already tried to get a couple bans approved and I don't know of any that have yet but there could be some. She once complained about how some "big cats" (actually they were sand cats and bobcats) owned by one keeper are being kept in large dog igloos. At the same time, she had "the same igloos in her own pens," they were not ellivated AND they would become flooded with rain water in Florida weather. The shelters were either at ground level or slightly below. One was a large drainage tunnel and it easily became wet and muddy.
There was a lynx that was badly matted around her head because the previous owner de-clawed her and she couldn't properly groom herself. The facility only helped her out with the mats when she had to go to the vet for an unrelated reason. Also, there were three bobcat kittens she claimed were torn from their mother when actually they were just found by a logger. Carole tried to rehabilitate them to be released but they all had died. She claimed they had gotten Parvo from a dog. :wall: Probably got a disease from all the stray domestic cats she allows to roam the property...
She also has a black leopard she claims she rescued when in actuality it was part of her own collection. It's cage isn't even fit for a fox! :wall: There's plenty of documents and receipts in her name on a couple of websites.
You are correct on both counts. I had Peta on the brain because I got into an argument about Peta with animal warden in city I work in the day I made the post. lolActually, the deal was with the HSUS, which is worst than PETA if you ask me.
pitbulllady