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OBT death curl

Discussion in 'Tarantula Questions & Discussions' started by MorkaTC, Feb 13, 2019.

  1. MorkaTC

    MorkaTC Arachnopeon

    So, my OBT molted fine, she drank the water dish and ate a superworm after molting, she was doing fine, but today, she was walking around all the enclosure like crazy and then became in a death curl position, i put her in a ICU and i don't know what to do, is the first time this happens to me, sugerences and tips please :C
  2. BoyFromLA

    BoyFromLA ‎٩(ˊᗜˋ*)و Arachnosupporter

    First of all, take it out from there.
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  3. MorkaTC

    MorkaTC Arachnopeon

    i made it, now, what should i do?
  4. BoyFromLA

    BoyFromLA ‎٩(ˊᗜˋ*)و Arachnosupporter

    It would be very helpful to share a picture or two of it’s enclosure.
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  5. MorkaTC

    MorkaTC Arachnopeon


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  6. BoyFromLA

    BoyFromLA ‎٩(ˊᗜˋ*)و Arachnosupporter

    How long ago was it’s molt?
  7. MorkaTC

    MorkaTC Arachnopeon

    about one week ago
  8. BoyFromLA

    BoyFromLA ‎٩(ˊᗜˋ*)و Arachnosupporter

    I honestly can’t tell the exact size of it, but by the comparison of the water bottle cap, I assume it’s about 2” or so (correct me if I am wrong).

    I wouldn’t bother feeding for about more than two weeks after molt on that size, but just provide enough water source.

    Would it be just possible that you mistook it’s recovery from molt as death curl and put it to ICU (which wasn’t needed at all).

    From the pictures, I can’t seem to find much problems with it.
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  9. MorkaTC

    MorkaTC Arachnopeon

    i tapped her with a sof brush and the T moves with her legs like shaking, i don't really know if she is okay, i will let her alone for a couple hours and then see what happens, thanks for the help!
  10. Arachnophoric

    Arachnophoric Arachnoangel Active Member

    Putting this species in an ICU would be counter-productive, as they're an arid species and suffer greatly when stuck in a wet, stuffy environment. You're not wetting down the substrate or anything, are you?

    That enclosure also looks very tall for your T, and looks like it needs a LOT more substrate for a P. murinus to boot - these guys are adaptable, but are burrowers first and foremost. You said she was wandering around before going into a death curl? Is it possible she was climbing the sides and fell, particularly on that little ship you've got in there, or something else hard? Being so fresh out of a molt, a fall like that could be catastrophic, even for a juvenile T.

    Has anyone been spraying chemicals in your house? Poisoning could also be what is going on here. Or possibly a bad feeder. Is this your only T, and if not, are any other Ts showing problems, or just the P. murinus?
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  11. EtienneN

    EtienneN Arachnonovelist-musician-artist Arachnosupporter

    You said she was doing fine post moult? Was she moving/ambulating all right? If she was, something had to have happened such as a fall or accidental poisoning. It’s very bizarre that this seemingly happened so quickly. I’m afraid all you can do now is give her access to water and hope she pulls through.
  12. darkness975

    darkness975 dream reaper Arachnosupporter

    How long after molting did you wait to feed it? Were the fangs sufficiently hardened?

    Based on the information you provided a complication from molting is a fairly possible explanation.
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  13. Vanisher

    Vanisher Arachnoprince Old Timer

    Even if she/he damage its fangs by to early feeding, it shouldnt die like that, so quick! My guess is that it hurt itself during moulting? Maybe got a severe fracture. Did you leave the spider alone during this time? Can you see any damage on the spider, i thinking abdomenal fracture and such!?
  14. Potatatas

    Potatatas Arachnoknight

    Is it actually a death curl? I thought they flipped on their backs for that? To my eyes looks more like a stress position but I'm probs wrong.

    I think you need more substrate in there though, there is a lot of height and OBTs often burrow as someone mentioned above. Might be best to leave her be for now though, moving her to add sub will only stress her more.
  15. MorkaTC

    MorkaTC Arachnopeon

    She couldn't make it, thanks for the tips by the way, RIP
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  16. Arachnophoric

    Arachnophoric Arachnoangel Active Member

    No, most death curls happen right side up. That's generally how you can tell a T is molting and not dying.

    Sorry for your loss, hopefully information in this thread will be useful and you'll have better luck in the future.
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