NOT so Venomous Scorpions???

ZooKeeper78

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I am Kind of new to scorps I have 2 Emps, I want to know of 2 of 3 other scorps OTHER THAN EMPS with MILD Venom that are safe for a novice doesnt matter how active they are just that they have a mild venom as I do have a 5 year old son and dont want anything with very Potaint venom in my house.... I hope that made since...
Thanks In advance! :p
 

Gigas

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A Good bet is any heterometrus sp, or a hadogenes troglodytes if you want a change from forest scorps not only are they mild but also rarely sting
 

azatrox

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A few interesting scorps that (likely) won't hurt ya! :)

There are PLENTY of interesting scorps that have "mild" venom...If you were looking for something other than an Emp, I'd suggest Hadogenes or Hadrurus...Both of these species grow to impressive sizes. Hadrurus can be quite active, and while some specimens can be aggressive at times, their sting is not dangerous. They can be kept quite happy in a desert terrarium.

Scorpio maurus is another impressive looking little beast with a mild venom. They like to burrow, and a sting from one of these is of little consequence. Keep these in desert vivaria as well.

These are just a few of the many species that fit the bill of interesting scorps with "mild" venom. Keep in mind that ALL scorpions are venomous animals, and depending upon one's internal chemistry, a sting from even an innocuos species MAY result in serious symptoms if one has an allergy to animal venoms....The best bet is to not get stung by ANY scorpion in the first place, and this is best accomplished by safe, responsible husbandy practices.

Oh yeah....as a general rule, stay away from any Buthid scorpion as most of the medically significant scorpions belong to this family (i.e. Androctonus, Parabuthus, L. quinquestriatus, Hottentotta, Tityus, Centruoides, etc...)

Good luck!

-AzAtrox
 

canadianscorp

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here is a list of the top three, active, interesting and beautiful scorps,that are readily available, with a not so potent venom.

1- hadrurus arizonensis, great scorp. very active, hunts its prey often, minimal care (desert species) and also very beautiful. venom is a 1 on a scale of 5.

2- h. spinifer- also a good scorp. very aggressive, defends itself at the smallest disturbance. although if youre looking for something more different from an emp, these are VERY similar looking, although they have alot more attitude. venom is a 1.

3- babycurus jacksoni- this is one of my very favorite scorps. very active, stings prey repeatedly when caught. very quick. if your looking for something more interesting than an emp, this would be a huge step up. although not as huge as an emp, they make up for it in coolness and activeness. did i mention they are one of the most beatiful scorps out there? venom on these guys is about a 2, but still mild.
 

The Bear

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Go with the Hadrurus arizonensis(desert hairy) or Hadogenes(flat rock). Desert hairy would be more interesting but more likely to sting.
As you probably already know any scorpion even mild venum is dangerous to young children or older adults.
 

MattM

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Don't see mild venomous scorpions as no-treath to your 5 year old son! Even a mild venomous species could do horrible danger to him :eek:

First prior for you would be a tank wich doesnt break in situations like falling of the table (wich means putting it somewere were it doest fall ofcourse) or when hit with a hard object (kids are playfull and nosy at that age).
 

Australis

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Let me guess...best tank would have to be a plastic container. Those big ones with a clip lock. Its stackable so u can keep more of them hehehe{D

Non poisonous scorps ?

Flat rocks are cool...paucidens are just gorgeous. Looks wierd though.
But definitely a good choice for a first timer :D or a collector's item for a veteran
 

PA7R1CK

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I would go with H. arizonensis , H. spadix. Beautiful scorps+active and a very mild venom.
 

Curry

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There are quite a few... (and some of my favorites)

C. hentzi

C. vittatus

H. troglodytes

H. spinifer

P. cavimanus

V. spinigerus

H. arizonensis

H. spadix
 

pitbulllady

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I'd go with any of the Hadogenes. I've got two, a H. paucidens and H. troglodytes, and neither have ever attempted to sting, although the big H. paucidens has given me a couple of good pinches(can't compare to a big Emp, though). Heterometrus are VERY apt to sting and pinch, and while their vemon may be mild to an adult, I don't know about a child. Same goes for any of the Centroides species. I myself got nailed by a small tan Centroides here in SC, on our Coastal Plain, which I assume was C. hentzi, though it could also have been C. vittatus, which I understand has some introduced populations in this state. I had a VERY severe reaction to the venom, and it took me nearly 3 months to get over the neurological effects. At one point I actually could not focus my eyes well enough, and was having such bad muscle pain, that I could not drive. I've been stung by a large P. imperator, and the worse I got from that was some itching, like a mosquito bite.

pitbulllady
 

ZooKeeper78

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Thanks for all of your suggestions, I really like the babycurus jacksoni do you all think it is Too risky?
Because I think that is what I want to go with....
:eek:
 

Ryan C.

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Eh, No body really knows about B. jacksoni except they are between 2-3, I would stick with Hadrurus spp. Hadogenes spp. and Heterometrus spp. They are all cool scorps.
 

MattM

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So you want a not so venomous scorpion because you have a 5 year old walking around, and then you start thinking about a babycurus jacksoni wich is in the buthidae family???

Why don't you take a bird or turtle instead? :eek:
 

canadianscorp

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truth be told, b.jacksoni is not the most mild scorp for venom. but honestly, ive known ppl who have been stung by them and were no worse than an emperor. it all depends on your immune system and allergic reactions. if youre worried about your kid getting into your scorps, i wouldnt recomend any scorp, because they all could pose a threat to young ones. but if you have them in a secure state to which your sure your child cannot get to them and you are very safe about it then it should be ok.

if your not sure you can provide a very secure and safe circumstance for your scorpions, you should be aware b.jacksoni's will sting readily if disturbed, along with hadrurus species. its basically a judgment call.
 

azatrox

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Again, my .02

Considering how you do have a 5 year old, and knowing how inquisitive a 5 year old can be, I'd recommend against any buthid scorpion...If you want an interesting scorp, I'd go with Hadogenes, Hadrurus or possibly Scorpio maurus...While Hadrurus and Scorpio maurus will sting, their stings are mild, and systemic symptoms resulting from a sting from either of these animals are unlikely. However, despite their low potency, ANY scorpion sting to a 5 year old kid can be a cause for concern....Keep whatever scorp you decide on in a locked, secure enclosure inaccessible to your little one....

-AzAtrox
 
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