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kupo969

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I think I've decided to go with a milk, they really do appeal to me. I catch on quick, but there's ONE thing that is never discussed and that is the placement of the UTH. Should it be under the hide? In the open?

I plan on putting it on a thermostat, but nothing expensive like $100, it's only for 1 snake.
 

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I think I've decided to go with a milk, they really do appeal to me. I catch on quick, but there's ONE thing that is never discussed and that is the placement of the UTH. Should it be under the hide? In the open?

I plan on putting it on a thermostat, but nothing expensive like $100, it's only for 1 snake.
Always provide a hide, and they will choose to use it most of the time. As for milks, get a Honduran milksnake :).
 

kupo969

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Always provide a hide, and they will choose to use it most of the time. As for milks, get a Honduran milksnake :).
I definitely will provide a hide, I want those tubs that people use, but have no idea where to get them.

Also, I meant where to place the heating pad (obviously under). What side? Under the hide? Under the open?
 

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I agree. I would really go for a corn because the choice of colors are awesome:eek: and less expensive than ball pythons.;)
BPs aren't that expensive - I paid $45 and shipping for mine, and lots of corn morphs are more than that.

Should it be under the hide?
"The" hide is incorrect. It should be under "a" hide, you need more than one. ;) One for the warm end (with the UTH under it) and one for the cool end. That way the snake doesn't have to choose between feeling comfy and feeling safe.
 

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BPs aren't that expensive - I paid $45 and shipping for mine, and lots of corn morphs are more than that.
Except for that cornsnakes are THE dime-a-dozen snake. You can get normal, anery, amel (albino), snow, motley, etc. each for $25 or less. You get into the more "high-end" morphs when you spend over $50 on a cornsnake. Most ball pythons less than $40 are typically captive-hatched, not captive-bred, and to get any kind of morph in a ball, you're spending over $100. Then, if you want the better stuff, a plain jane albino will cost at least $400.

Yes, SOME corn morphs are more than your ball, but overall, you can get a lot more for your dollar out of a corn.

If you want to see a pricelist from the most reputable name in cornsnakes, check out Dod Soderberg here.
 

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I think I've decided to go with a milk.
Have you thought about what kind of milk you would like? Just remember in regards to milks, that the larger they get as an adult, the easier it typically is to get them settled down as babies. For instance, sinaloans and nelson's are pretty small, and very squirmy. Usually, one has to wait 2 years for them to calm down enough to even hold enjoyably without getting musked or pooped on. Hondurans and Ande's, on the other hand, will settle down pretty fast as younsters. I haven't ever had to work longer than two weeks of regular (almost daily) handling to get one to settle down. Hondurans and Ande's are said to get up to 7 feet, average 5-6. Sinaloans and Nelson's will stay around the 3-4 foot mark.
 

kupo969

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I have my eyes on a Pueblan, maybe an Apricot Pueblan milk snake.

I just ran into another question. Is belly heat more important for milks? It looks like I'm going to have less money to spend. I'm going down the road with a heat lamp now to save myself ~$130 from the thermostat/heat pad combo.
 

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Heat pads usually don't need a thermostat, and you are more likely to need one with a heat lamp. Either way is fine, so long as the temperatures are good. If you do go with a heat lamp, use a ceramic heat emitter.
 

kupo969

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Heat pads usually don't need a thermostat, and you are more likely to need one with a heat lamp. Either way is fine, so long as the temperatures are good. If you do go with a heat lamp, use a ceramic heat emitter.
Are they more powerful than infra red heat lamps? I've never owned or used any ceramic heat emitter.
 

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Well, from my experience, they tend to work better, and provide a better distribution of heat that may allow you to get by with a lower wattage, depending on how you set it up.

Also, from my experience, my snakes seemed more agitated when I used the red lights, as oppossed to the ceramic or under tank heat pad.
 
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