My new breeding project.

MartinW

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Hi Rob, Just realised something rather interesting. The picture you show is a different S.hardwicki to the one we had (up till a few days ago). Here is a pic of the one we had last year http://www.martin.chaerilus.co.uk/photogallery/Originals/Misc/S.hardwickei1.JPG. Note the second segment is red on your one but is black on ours. We have now had one that looks similar to the one you have. It seems thinner so I initially wondered if it was a male and our original one a females. Alternatively its a subspecies. Are the ones you have all the same or mixed?
 
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SAn

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These are just different colorations. Not different subspecies :)
 

dehaani

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It does look like polymorphism to me but having looked at so many photos of these centipedes, it looks like a lot of them clearly get fat and some seem to have noticeably shorter terminal legs.

It's all quite anecdotal going by photos taken at various angles but it does look to me like females might be visibly distinguished by their build.
 

Satellite Rob

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Hi Martin,SAn + wbs,
I've notice that just about all of them have a slightly defferent pattern.I
don't know why.I don't no if it's because location collected.There the first
I've seen in person.I have 1 with a double black band.Some have equelly
sized black and orange bands.Some orange bands are wider black.The only
reason I took pictures of these two.Is because Thay were perfect.Thay had
all there legs and both antennas.I know the person I got the from only had
them for 3 days before he sold them to me and he never got them to eat.It
took me 3 days before I got them all to eat.Now thay eat as fast as throw
food in.I've been feeding the crickets + pinkies and thay won't stop eating.
Thay put on alot of wieght.If I posted a new picture of the same pedes.You
would beleave it was the same ones.I asked my friend if he can find out were
thay were collected and he's trying.But no luck yet.I been in touch with
Steven from Belgium.He tells it's impossible to sex a Hardwickei by site.He
breeding them twice and both times lost what he guessed was a male both
times.He used a 23cm female and a 16cm male.Anyway Steven there is no
visable differances between male and female.He also side the pedes he tried
to breed could have been females.O.K I'm getting dizzy.So far I learned that
A-You can't sex them.
B-The patterns may be different.
C-Do the pedes I have come from more then 1 locations.
I really hope the females breed in the wild before thay were collected and a couple of
month of good living will produce eggs.I hope in couple more months we will have pedes.I
don't want to have to use trial error like Steven did.I''m pretty sure these are the only
ones in the U.S.But I could be wrong about that.
In the near future I will change the pictures to different pedes.So you can
so members can see some of the differances in the patterns.Well Martin I
hope this helped or is your head spinning like mine.

Satellite Rob
 
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David Burns

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WOW!

If you switched a couple, into one anothers containers. I mean they would each be, alone, in the others home. Might it be possible to determine sex if a sperm web is made?
 

MartinW

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Hi all,

to be honest with you centipedes in general petrify my and I don't generally keep them - I believe they are/can be too dangerous (due to speed, venom levels and temperament) to be on general sale, or at least by me. Trying to parcel two up ysterday has only justified my opinion. Having said that having seen my first S.hardwicki last year I was hooked on them and as I am not one to preach to others what they should be keeping I will say no more

All the ones I have had so far (6) look pretty similar to the pic I posted. Only one looked particularly different as I have noted. The first ones would all have come from the region around Vellore but they are now being collected from a much wider area covering 100-150km. so it may be that the coloration is fairly region specific and the ones that are different to our original ones are coming from another area. However this is just me thinking aloud, as I have said I have very little experience with centipedes so do not really know how much color variation normally goes on. I will ask the collector to let me know more collection data for others that he is sending as we should have more coming in
 

ragnew

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They're looking great Rob! It's amazing what a week can do! Keep up the awesome work man, and again, good luck with all of this! Pretty interesting to see what happens!
 

dehaani

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Hi Billy,
I've never seen a Scolopendra as docile as the Hardwickei.
Mine are by far the most highly strung pede's I've ever had! I'm comparing these to about 25 species that I've kept.

One of them just doesn't stop wandering. The other one is happy to burrow but when it's disturbed, it starts flexing it's whole body like Ethmostigmus trigonopodus tend to do but so much faster!
 

Satellite Rob

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Hi Billy,
That statement was a little premature.I only had them for 5 or 6 days at that
time.That was before thay settle in.Things have changed.The longer I keep them the more aggressive thay get.Now that thay claimed there own
territories(there tanks).I've withness the same behavers and few others.I
Have a couple of the wandering pedes and I'm hoping there males.Steven
told me there is no way to visibly sex them.Have you had the same
experience trying to sex them?Well my docile Hardwickei are turning into lions.
Well I'll keep watching them.I'll be trying to figure out male from female.Billy
thanks for posting and have a great weekend.I was going to update my
docile claim anyway and i'm glad you made your post.Thanks again Billy.

Satellite Rob
 
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dehaani

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I was just trying to get some photos of them without much success due to their maniacal behaviour! I'll have to wait until a night time feeding session by the looks of things. This one ate for a few seconds then shot up the side of the viv towards my face! :wall:

They seem to be more sensitive to light than other, large species.



 

Miss Bianca

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I would put more pictures.But the board won't let me.
Satellite Rob


I don't see why you wouldn't be able to put up more pics...
try making the files smaller...

I mean I know about when you become an arachnosupporter
you have more upload priveledge, but still,
one at a time without being a supporter isn't the way of it
I think....:confused: ???

They're beautiful by the way..
 

Satellite Rob

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Hi tortuga00
It only lets me put up 4 pictures at a time and I'm using 2 for sales pictures.
I'm going to change pictures sometime this week.Have a great day.

Satellite Rob
 

dehaani

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Get a flickr.com account and put the pictures there. You can paste the links to them in here, then you can upload 100MB of photos a month for free!
 

Satellite Rob

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Hi Billy,
I was thinking about doing that for a while now.But between working,the wife
and my kids.I have not found the time.Hopefully i'll get some time in the near
future.

Satellite Rob
 

Miss Bianca

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Hi Billy,
I was thinking about doing that for a while now.But between working,the wife
and my kids.I have not found the time.Hopefully i'll get some time in the near
future.

Satellite Rob

www.photobucket.com also works, you can upload multiple files at a time which really is great, and then they even give you different ways to copy the links and post them here.. hope you find the time soon!
 
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Satellite Rob

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Hi Bianca,
Thank you for the sign up link.I'm going to try to take care of it this week.I
been planing to do a Brachy picture thread.It will have all 17 different female Brachy's.
I have all the premolt pictures done already and about half the Brachy's after
thay molt.I need 9 more Brachy's to molt to finish.It will have rarest of the
Brachy's.Like Baumgarteni,Fossorium and newest Kahlenbergi.If I put on as a
Arachnoboard picture thread.I don't know how many pictures it will hold.But I'm
sure it won't hold all 34 pictures.But the www.photobucket.com will have
more than enough space.Thanks again Bianca.

PS:After I finish the females.I plan to do the males.It will have subadult and adult males.
But it will take some time to finish.You can't make a spider molt and i'm waiting.I only
using my spiders I own and that what take time.

Satellite Rob
 
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beetleman

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:drool: :drool: :drool: mmmmm those hardwicki are just stunning!!! me want some rob!{D
 
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