macrothele sp. taiwan taroko

[Jakub]

Hi,
I am thinking about getting one of these, btu I need to know how potent its venom is and if it is potentially lethal.
Thanks

 

[Venom1080]

Wrong subforum.

 

[Jakub]

well they are mygalomorphs like Ts, so I dont see how this subforum is wrong

 

[sasker]

Well, this forum is for tarantula's only (Theraphosidae). Your question belongs in the subforum for true spiders and other spiders.

 

[Chris LXXIX]

Wrong section, but anyway... their venom, while I doubt 'potentially lethal', needs to be considered severe, and of medical relevance (e.g E.R, Hospital: you don't want to have a "weak link" of all sorts if a bite happens).

Careful. Genus Macrothele venom is enough for send someone to Hospital. They are very defensive.

Overall, nice Mygalomorphae. Care is easy.

 

[Nosiris]

You're going to have to assume it's very severe. Macrothele species vary from the merely painful (M calpeiana) to hospitalization (M gigas) with a few unknowns in-between. I'd err on the side of caution if I were you.

 

[USMuscle9403]

How much experience do you have? These are big, defensive spiders that are potentially very toxic. They're about the closest thing you're going to find to Atrax or Hadronyche on the market. While they can't climb smooth surfaces, they are extremely fast and web up their entire enclosures, so an escape is possible, too.

Maybe start with Diplurids or M. calpeiana until you get the gist of them?

 

[Jakub]

Ok, I am sorry, I will use the right subforum next time.
I thought their venom would be severe, but the information on web differ, with some webs saying even that it could kill a human.
I am very cautious with all my Ts, I have experience with african tarantulas, which are very defensive, fast and toxic, so I think I could handle these, but still, I dont want to put my girlfriend and my pets in danger because I want to have a cool bald spider.
EDIT: Thanks for moving the thread

 

[Chris LXXIX]

Ok, I am sorry, I will use the right subforum next time.
I thought their venom would be severe, but the information on web differ, with some webs saying even that it could kill a human.
I am very cautious with all my Ts, I have experience with african tarantulas, which are very defensive, fast and toxic, so I think I could handle these, but still, I dont want to put my girlfriend and my pets in danger because I want to have a cool bald spider.
EDIT: Thanks for moving the thread

When venom potency is concerned, let alone when the Internet is involved, it's normal to end with different info/s.

I 100% stand with what Nosiris said, despite the fact that I think M.calpeiana venom is enough as well for an Hospital trip.

Even if I said that... no, I personally don't think they can be 'potentially lethal' (still no one knows what can happens if the bite area is neck/head etc) in Italy no one can keep those because, due to the combination of powerful venom and the fact that 'too little is know about', they ended up in the illegal Arachnids to keep.

In other European nations they are fine to keep. Extreme caution is adviced, more or less like when dealing with "hot venom" Arachnids, IMO

 

[basin79]

Macrothele are easy to deal with. Their venom potency should never be an issue as you should never get bit.

 

[Jakub]

Even if I never get bit, it is still essential to know what kind of venom potency am I dealing with. I watched some youtube videos of rehouses of macrothele sp. and they dont seem to be very difficult to manipulate with.
Anyway, thanks for all responses to this thread, I am glad that there is a community I can always turn to with these questions.

 

[Chris LXXIX]

Maybe start with Diplurids or M. calpeiana until you get the gist of them?

Frankly, venom potency aside, there is no particular difference between M.calpeiana and the one OP wish to buy: both are fast, highly defensive spiders so caution is mandatory always.

Plus, M.calpeiana venom is potent enough for a trip to E.R no matter

 

[Chris LXXIX]

Even if I never get bit, it is still essential to know what kind of venom potency am I dealing with. I watched some youtube videos of rehouses of macrothele sp. and they dont seem to be very difficult to manipulate with.
Anyway, thanks for all responses to this thread, I am glad that there is a community I can always turn to with these questions.

It's the same story, my man

You ask legit questions that needs legit answers.

Problem: too much is yet to learn/studied/discovered about their venom, therefore, according to the 'little' we know about, IMO and I say IMO because others will probably disagree, that genus needs, if not to be considered, threated (home keeping talking) as 'potentially lethal' for avoid issues of all sorts.

No one wants to discover first "finger" (ah ah) 'badass' side effects or else, after all

So, if you really want that and think you are prepared enough, buy one I say. Care is easy, and they are kinda 'hardy' spiders as far as I know. Long tongs, caution and you're fine

 

[Chris LXXIX]

Macrothele are easy to deal with. Their venom potency should never be an issue as you should never get bit.

I do 101% agree my man but, no matter, is an issue to take in consideration, always

 

[basin79]

I do 101% agree my man but, no matter, is an issue to take in consideration, always

Only in labels needed for their enclosure.

They can't climb smooth surfaces at all. So unboxing/rehousing in the bath is 100% safe.

 

[sasker]

Problem: too much is yet to learn/studied/discovered about their venom

No one wants to discover first "finger" (ah ah) 'badass' side effects or else, after all

Wasn't there a guy on Arachnoboards who voluntarily tries the venom potency of spiders? Perhaps we should ask him, once he is fully recovered from his OBT experiment