well then i guess Steven and i live in a fantasy world. i wouldn't be surprised if you editted it out of a post once you got caught up adn THAT is why you are being so cockyYour recollection is another fabrication. Good thing you added as 'you recall' to that one so it wasn't another flat out lie.
You may be thinking that I didn't offer the name of the taxonomist who did the diplopod identifications but it is written in the book.
Make it $20 and I'll help you out.
It's not a name change as formerly would denote but a misidentification followed by a new misidentification. Even if the three were all the same genus and the genus were Ethmostigmus there's little reason to believe they're the same species. I did check with two top myriapod specialists and the placement of the head as an indicator was almost laughed at but the first spiracle shape does indicate Otostigminae rather than Scolopendrinae.
So what species did these two 'top myriapod specialists' say they were then?
And what do you mean by 'placement of the head' as an indicator? If you are referring to whether the headplate overlaps with the first tergite or not, it is a morphological character that can be used to determine that they are not Scolopendromorpha.
would ya mind sharing the names of those specialist ? (can go trough PM if ya want)
placement of the cephalic plate is not a key to Ethmostigmus,..
but is one of the basic keys to the genus Scolopendra.
danread was just a second faster
PS: Dan,... i think you're mistaken with the names,... Scolopendromorpha is the order to which all scolopendrid centipedes belong to
You're the one claiming 1.5-2mm (oh yeagh, .5-1mm now) penetration as an end all to your arguement, why change your line now? Are you trying to say centipede venom only has to touch the surface of the skin now?... what about the jellyfish thing? willing to concede your posts are crap here?
no silly orin. YOU are making the depth part of the argument once you realized we were right. nice try though. i just said they could bite and i thought i had a pic showing 1.5-2mm. oooh... i was off by halfa mm or whatever. big deal. the fact they bite was well represented by the picture and videoYou're the one claiming 1.5-2mm (oh yeagh, .5-1mm now) penetration as an end all to your arguement, why change your line now? Are you trying to say centipede venom only has to touch the surface of the skin now?
The placement of the head as an indicator is useless.
This is still a true statement. There are only two US myriapod specialists I know of and you're welcome to check out the info with them. I'm glad to see you finally actually searched for the info instead of making up something new.
can you please... please try to stay on topic?You're the one with mountains of crappy posts suggesting info for things you don't even claim to have experience with. How are all your crappy posts OK?
to everyone with a bit of interest about Orins statement above:The placement of the head as an indicator is useless.
This is still a true statement.
If you would stay on topic my responses wouldn't be off topic. Obviously you pointed out the most recent ambypigid crappy answer. The pinkies you've never fed to AGBs is another. Those are from recent days, a lot of your posts are just incoherent, some are good. Just because you qualify bad ones doesn't make the answer not 'crappy'. Nobody is perfect but since you bring up crappy posts you might want to look around at your glass house. I said small centipedes can't bite through normal human skin (which is a fact as we've pointed out just by the depth of your skin versus thier entire forcipules, even big centipedes don't drive more than the tips in), I didn't say absolutely no human skin or no human has any reaction whatsoever to small arthropods. I know they try to bite with all thier little might but can't do any damage (normal skin anyway). Admittedly I am assuming someone isn't trying to push them into the back of their hand for five minutes. You're certainly reading a lot into my posts... "absolute expert". I never posted anything about being an absolute expert and there's no such thing as an absolute expert. Whose opinion do you think I'm giving? Some other poster here?can you please... please try to stay on topic?
show me mountains of crappy posts.
... but EandA wrote a good book on the care of centipedes... one of the only modern english hobbybooks out there.
between some of the other posters, E&A, and myself we have produced.... perhaps thousands of baby centipedes. i would say we probably have at least the beginnings of a good grasp on the captive husbandry of our little friends
I don't know what you did. Do you really still think a bite attempt that lasts a fraction of a second and sitting there trying to make it bite you on the back of your hand till the camera can focus is going to be exactly the same as anything else? If they could deliver venom into your skin, the time you make them sit there gnawing is going to make a big difference (might even scratch the skin somewhat gnawing all that time). I've had them gnawing on my finger for a while with no effect but haven't tried the eyelid (thinnest skin). I don't imagine you really spent a full 300 seconds, it's an explanatory exaggeration like "I've been sitting here all day" or "I thought you'd never come". I just meant a ridiculously long time.trying to push them into the back of my hand for five minutes?
where are you getting this crap from now?
you made that up!