Life after death?

[14pokies]

Ski mask.

Did you notice his surgical tools are an Xacto knife set?

This made me giggle for a solid minute...

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What's up with the box of matches in the last pic? Norse funeral?

Make sure you pick all the ashes out of the bathtub... The ashes from my Cheetah × OBT × Dragon Chimera project that I was working on last week backed up the whole neighborhood.... :wink:

 

[Tfisher]

surgical mask was used. and the xacto set was ligit!

No cremation and the smell was unique.. idk how to explain it really.

The eggs on the other hand are becoming more solid. almost like a gel.. I wounder if this is normally what happens inside of the sac?

A yellow tint has become more prominent. I wounder if the mother would spin the sac to ensure they dont clump?

No molt has developed and but there is a white film that has stuck to the side of the canister.

I turn them four times a day.

 

[Exoskeleton Invertebrates]

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First you are a very disturb individual. Second, your specimen is not a geniculata is the formerly known brocklehursti or as I call it is the version II brocklehursti.

 

[Tfisher]

First you are a very disturb individual. Second, your specimen is not a geniculata is the formerly known brocklehursti or as I call it is the version II brocklehursti.

First This is not the time nor place to start suggesting what species I have... (If I was curious I would have posted it in the correct section of "Tarantula Identification").

Second Im not disturbed one bit. I will not lecture you in medical history but maybe you should start on a few names like Galen and work your way to the present. If im disturbed then so is Leonardo Da Vinci and every other person whom has sought after answers on why things happen.

Third your "theroy" on trying to identify species has no evidence behind it and its just an observation. I believe you were imformed this by an actual doctor if I recall correctly. Ive also been told by alot of keepers that you CANNOT ID a tarantula by just looks alone.

Im not trying to be rude a PM would have been more practical if my species concerned you.

 

[Blue Jaye]

I extracted eggs from a dead water dragon within the hour of her passing and all but one hatched . While Ts are a whole different ball game it's still very interesting and worth a try . I'm honestly very interested in the outcome . Keep rotating those eggs and good luck ! Might want to change your name to Dr. Tfrankenstein lol

 

[Tfisher]

Hahaha thanks bluejaye

 

[Exoskeleton Invertebrates]

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First This is not the time nor place to start suggesting what species I have... (If I was curious I would have posted it in the correct section of "Tarantula Identification").

Second Im not disturbed one bit. I will not lecture you in medical history but maybe you should start on a few names like Galen and work your way to the present. If im disturbed then so is Leonardo Da Vinci and every other person whom has sought after answers on why things happen.

Third your "theroy" on trying to identify species has no evidence behind it and its just an observation. I believe you were imformed this by an actual doctor if I recall correctly. Ive also been told by alot of keepers that you CANNOT ID a tarantula by just looks alone.

Im not trying to be rude a PM would have been more practical if my species concerned you.

Wouldn't you be doing the same if your own species concern you, you pm a couple of people? As I recall someone else on your previous starting thread you were told that what you had was a brock see post#21 http://www.arachnoboards.com/ab/showthread.php?277489-URGENT-A-genic-HELP! But yet you still call your deceased female geniculata. Though I do wonder what species you used to mate with your formerly known brocklehursti.

A few days ago you pm me, you asked me if the brocklehursti have stripping on their spinnerets. Also you said my genic has three stripes all the way around her spinnerets.

My response to you was. I never bother looking at the spinnerets. What I look for is the patella, that's what is important. I also said spermathecae don't mean crap on both species. Supposedly spermathecae is not valid to identify a species.

Do you even know how many times I have identify mature males of geniculata vs brocklehursti? Did you know that there is a significant difference between the two? Or do you think both look the same?

If you been told by a lot of keepers that I can't identify spiders, than why did you bother pm me in regards of your species genic that you wish to keep calling her under that name?

I do find you as a disturbed individual.

 

[fuzzyavics72]

Thank you Jose!

Tfisher, stop breeding tarantulas if you can't identify the species you have before you breed it!!!!!!

 

[Scorpling]

This thread is amusing. If this is pulled off successfully, it will be fascinating! Best of luck tfisher, whatever species your t is! Also this makes me wonder if artificial insemenation is possible with arachnids. If it was I could imagine breeders buying sperm packets off of other hobbyists to impregnate their females. And now I'll just go back to trying to recessitate a frozen fish stick before I disturb any more members....

 

[Tfisher]

Curiosity fueled my question just as this entire thread did. To thorw out a rude remark as I would rashly interbreed species is disturbing..

Again if you'd like to discuss my specimen you can always PM me, this thread is not titled "Geniculata vs. Brocklehursti".

 

[14pokies]

Tfisher, stop breeding tarantulas if you can't identify the species you have before you breed it!!!!!!

Huh.. Funny, I remember a certain mod saying the same thing to a certain user who's name was eerily similar to yours.. I think it was on an avic thread.. :wink:

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I do find you as a disturbed individual.

In all fairness Thomas is nuts for doing this... So was Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin for what they did.... Is Fisher an astronaut NO ..A space cadet SORTA... a pioneer? maybe he's the only guy I know that has tried this.

Would I have done the same thing probably not.. Am I interested to see how it works out YUUUP!

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PS... I do agree with Chris and Jose that if your not positive of a species identification don't breed it...

 

[fuzzyavics72]

Intresting... 14pokies, if you're referring to this post( http://www.arachnoboards.com/ab/showthread.php?273438-Name-this-Avic...&highlight=fuzzyavics72 ), which you're, if you actually read it, you'll see that I do get my tarantulas confirmed before breeding anything.. recently, I added a P. formosa female to my collection from a mutual friend.... I immediately checked to see if it was truly a formosa (which I knew it was), but I like to double check to avoid causing anymore mess to this hobby. And if I can't confirm a species, I won't breed them. I'm not here for the money like certain individuals... I do a lot of research before breeding anything. Especially, if I don't know too much about that species.

 

[14pokies]

Intresting... 14pokies, if you're referring to this post( http://www.arachnoboards.com/ab/showthread.php?273438-Name-this-Avic...&highlight=fuzzyavics72 ), which you're, if you actually read it, you'll see that I do get my tarantulas confirmed before breeding anything.. recently, I added a P. formosa female to my collection from a mutual friend.... I immediately checked to see if it was truly a formosa (which I knew it was), but I like to double check to avoid causing anymore mess to this hobby. And if I can't confirm a species, I won't breed them. I'm not here for the money like certain individuals... I do a lot of research before breeding anything. Especially, if I don't know too much about that species.

Haha who said i was referring to you? Ok i was but i dont think it was that thread... I remeber the comment being very similar to yours.. Short and to the point.. I could be wrong though...

Good hearing from ya its been awhile..

 

[Exoskeleton Invertebrates]

Huh.. Funny, I remember a certain mod saying the same thing to a certain user who's name was eerily similar to yours.. I think it was on an avic thread.. :wink:

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In all fairness Thomas is nuts for doing this... So was Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin for what they did.... Is Fisher an astronaut NO ..A space cadet SORTA... a pioneer? maybe he's the only guy I know that has tried this.

Would I have done the same thing probably not.. Am I interested to see how it works out YUUUP!

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PS... I do agree with Chris and Jose that if your not positive of a species identification don't breed it...

Nuts, disturbed, wacko, insane etc. I agree.

Breeding a species without the proper positive knowledge of what species you have, I also agree.

 

[14pokies]

Nuts, disturbed, wacko, insane etc. I agree.

Breeding a species without the proper positive knowledge of what species you have, I also agree.

I have to wonder though would people be as judgemental if it were a B.klassi,M.mesomelas or some other species that are rare in the us? Personally I don't see the problem, she was dead..

Should the vulture be labeled as a nutcase for eating dead animals Or a Doctor in Philadelphia for taking the fetus out of the deceased mother in hope that it will survive?

 

[Exoskeleton Invertebrates]

I have to wonder though would people be as judgemental if it were a B.klassi,M.mesomelas or some other species that are rare in the us? Personally I don't see the problem, she was dead..

Should the vulture be labeled as a nutcase for eating dead animals Or a Doctor in Philadelphia for taking the fetus out of the deceased mother in hope that it will survive?

The differences is doctors aren't posting online of a fetus/unborn baby being taken out of a dead mother. After all Thomas did posted in his own words that these images may be disturbing. Using the word "disturb individual" was appropriate in this case.

Regardless wether it's disturbing or not to some viewers, if the eggs are fertile and Thomas was able to save some babies we still don't know the identity of the mature male. The babies can look like Joe Blow for all we know.

If it was a B. klaasi or M. mesomelas my feeling would be the same. This is simply my own personal view towards this thread. I know other members have their own personal view as well, like Thomas has his point of view.

 

[jiacovazzi]

Jose, Are you unable to open basically any science (biology, pathology, etc) textbook? Most of those images could be disturbing to someone unfamiliar to science/those uneducated within science. Keeping tarantulas is a hobby rooted in science (biology, anatomy, ecology) and Tfisher is absolutely not a disturbed person. At least Tfisher was sensible to post a disclaimer that "it may be disturbing" to some hobbyists. If he was truly disturbed, he would've posted no such disclaimer.

 

[Exoskeleton Invertebrates]

Jose, Are you unable to open basically any science (biology, pathology, etc) textbook? Most of those images could be disturbing to someone unfamiliar to science/those uneducated within science. Keeping tarantulas is a hobby rooted in science (biology, anatomy, ecology) and Tfisher is absolutely not a disturbed person. At least Tfisher was sensible to post a disclaimer that "it may be disturbing" to some hobbyists. If he was truly disturbed, he would've posted no such disclaimer.

Like I said this is my view towards this thread as others have their own, as well as Thomas.
And don't forget he is calling his deceased female A. geniculata. What if she was bred by a totally different species? If the babies are fertile and was able to accomplish of having some live young slings than what? Are you still going to call them geniculata? The deceased mother is not a geniculata, it's the formerly know brocklehursti.

Not knowing the right species does not accomplish the identity of the babies.

 

[14pokies]

Jose...What he has done is no more or less disturbing or controversial than feeding a species of T deemed less "valuable" to a T that has been deemed more valuable by the keeper...

As for them being mutts its possible but that discussion really goes beyond the scope of this thread... At the very least he can raise the brood and use them as prey for some of his picky feeders if he chooses..

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Jose, Are you unable to open basically any science (biology, pathology, etc) textbook? Most of those images could be disturbing to someone unfamiliar to science/those uneducated within science. Keeping tarantulas is a hobby rooted in science (biology, anatomy, ecology) and Tfisher is absolutely not a disturbed person. At least Tfisher was sensible to post a disclaimer that "it may be disturbing" to some hobbyists. If he was truly disturbed, he would've posted no such disclaimer.

I agree and its something that hasn't been tried before( as far as i know). If he is successful it could help out with that rare T species that would of disapeared from the hobby other wise...

There can be no progression in anything if we stand by and do nothing..

 

[Exoskeleton Invertebrates]

Jose...What he has done is no more or less disturbing or controversial than feeding a species of T deemed less "valuable" to a T that has been deemed more valuable by the keeper...

As for them being mutts its possible but that discussion really goes beyond the scope of this thread... At the very least he can raise the brood and use them as prey for some of his picky feeders if he choses..

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I agree and its something that hasn't been tried before( as far as i know). If he is successful it could help out with that rare T species that would of disapeared from the hobby other wise...

There can be no progression in anything if we stand by and do nothing..

You're right, it is no more or less disturbing or controversial. We all don't think the same or speak the same we have our own point of view on things.