Life after death?

[Tfisher]

I've decided to move this question to a new thread because it no longer has anything to do with keeping my a geniculata alive. http://www.arachnoboards.com/ab/showthread.php?277489-URGENT-A-genic-HELP! (Details of how her death happened)

Now assuming you clicked on this because you would like to know what life after death means and what it's pertaining to.

My a geniculata just died as mentioned earlier. This situation was odd, where my "gravid" geniculata died giving few reasons why.

Now what I'm curious about is how that happened.. So I'd like to perform an autopsy. And possibly an artificial brood.

Is this at all possible? Has anyone done something like this?

Any answers/info would be greatly appreciated..

 

[Chris LXXIX]

I don't know. Do that, man. Go for it. It's not the T's keeper now speaking but my Paracelso, Cornelio Agrippa, Cagliostro etc dark side.
I'm sorry for your loss, of course. "Genics" are one of my fav T genus.

 

[Blue Jaye]

It would have to be immediately after death and then you would have to deposit the sperm onto the eggs your self . This would be a very delicate procedure if at all possible the eggs them selves would be very , very fragile .

 

[Tfisher]

Even though the eggs aren't yet fertile? I don't have my tools until another hour.

I'm still going to give it my best shot.

I will attempt to record the procedure for those interested.

 

[cold blood]

My first thought when you posted she died was that I would have done a little dissection just to satisfy my own curiosity.

I had a little B. vagans die in an odd fashion, and it looked like it was ready to pop (molt). After it died I took a scalpel to it and found what appeared to be a (significant) backup of oop:, so I assume it died from being impacted somehow, although not being an arachnologist I really have no REAL proof of anything, but eggs would be a different story altogether....keep them alive, I doubt it, but you're not going to do any extra harm to the t, I can guarantee that.

 

[Tfisher]

This was an interesting situation to deal with.

Still very messy and disturbing but some very interesting situations have occured.

1) I have put all of the egg and the sperm into a plastic ball. Should I put very small holes into it?

I have an empty eggsac that if closed tightly I could fit all those eggs into...

I will post pics soon.

2) Also not to leave you all hanging but the tarantula started to move legs 1,3 near the end of the procedure.

but I will get pics so you dont have to wait a whole day to watch the video (BTW its very graphic) sooo idk if i should ask a mod... I dont want to get in trouble hahah

 

[Tfisher]

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[Ellenantula]

the tarantula started to move legs 1,3 near the end of the procedure.

She was still alive? Or am I misunderstanding?

 

[Tfisher]

She was still alive? Or am I misunderstanding?

Deff not. She was pretty cold

I'm assuming I hit a nerve.

 

[cold blood]

Deff not. She was pretty cold

I'm assuming I hit a nerve.

lol, they are cold blooded:unsure: The only way it would be warm is if you placed it on a heater...lol:laugh:

 

[horanjp]

AHAHAHAHAHA!!! IT'S ALIVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Sorry had to say it first. You are nuts. Seriously though, I'm so curious to see what you are planning to do. How itchy are your hands right now?

 

[Tfisher]

::turns on Frankenstien::

LOL! Im sure she was dead, her abdomin was extremely squishy, If i were to leave her she would have been goop by morning. (Moral of the story is dont fall asleep around tfisher) but Im just trying to make a good situation out a a bad one.

I would normally decide to preserve my specimens if they pass.
But this situation was different. I wanted to save those babies, then I thought about if the eggs arnt fertilized until laid. My brain started buzzing and decided it was worth a shot.

I dont really know what I'm doing to be honest with you.

---------- Post added 09-08-2015 at 11:41 PM ----------

my finger tips are swollen and itch like crazy.

 

[Ellenantula]

How botched a surgery did you do? Could you stuff abd with cotton or something and stitch closed? Might still be able to preserve....

 

[horanjp]

I dont really know what I'm doing to be honest with you.

---------- Post added 09-08-2015 at 11:41 PM ----------

my finger tips are swollen and itch like crazy.

I'm just cackling over here. This is unreal.

 

[Tfisher]

How botched a surgery did you do? Could you stuff abd with cotton or something and stitch closed? Might still be able to preserve....

I started by cutting down the abdomen then across like a gaint plus, then extracted the eggs. and used a syrindge to lance the "sperm sac"??? then collected all eggs from the specimen and injected the "sperm"into the capsul holding the eggs. I didnt find anything what was eating her from inside the abdomen so I wanted to continue up to the cephalothorax. I found no evidence of compaction. (Although it turned into a brown mess in no time) I split the cephalothorax and spread it open and found nothing. I let her just sit there for a second and I watched her move leg 2. I was kind of convinced it was my mind playing tricks on me. I honestly debated trying to shock her with a 9 volt battery to revive her.. but that's a whole different story. There was no movment until I split the cephalothorax. Just makes me kind of think... If she was able to do that, could the eggs still have some kind of life to them? Sometimes pregnant hosts can die and we can still save the infant..

But to wrap up that rant, she was in no condition to want to be remembered by. :\

 

[Ellenantula]

I let her just sit there for a second and I watched her move leg 2. I was kind of convinced it was my mind playing tricks on me. I honestly debated trying to shock her with a 9 volt battery to revive her.. but that's a whole different story.

Okay, I laughed.
Time Out!
I'll just go sit in the other corner shall I? lol

 

[vespers]

This thread is...just...
no words...

 

[Tfisher]

what do you mean?

 

[Amimia]

So ahh.... How bad did it smell? Did you wear a surgical mask thing or a bandana?

 

[Ellenantula]

So ahh.... How bad did it smell? Did you wear a surgical mask thing or a bandana?

Ski mask.

Did you notice his surgical tools are an Xacto knife set?