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and also is there a save the red widow fund
My treds are still slings so we'll see when they grow up.i think the treds out weigh them all. ^^
haha , I dont remember. I dont remember it being that big.>< I wish i still had my widow, she would have won hands down, If the only other person on the boards who knows me wants to verify on the size of this gravid female he can.![]()
Those huge bulbous abdomens are such a characteristic trait of these that I think they should be considered. We've discussed this before and I think like other animals, these probably have a winner in mass and a winner in size.Dont judge by the size of the abdomen ...that can fool you.
You got a scale? What are you waiting for?Those huge bulbous abdomens are such a characteristic trait of these that I think they should be considered. We've discussed this before and I think like other animals, these probably have a winner in mass and a winner in size.
Protecting their native haunts is the key to their survival.and also is there a save the red widow fund
Forgive ...a bit of a threadjack...I had some L.lugubris several years ago that were monsters. The L.tredecimguttatus (all black form), are real monsters as well.
L.lugubris pics available online show an all black flavor.Specimens from central Asia are also known by the binomial name Latrodectus lugubris
Interesting. The L.lugubris that I did have were from Fauna Labs so that would explain my use of that name. What is your source regarding the L.lugubris/L.tredecimguttatus being one-in-the-same?Forgive ...a bit of a threadjack...
Name L.lugubris is supposed to be obsolete and has been found to be the same as tredecimguttatus.
I guess a few other mid-east species have been found to be treds also.
Wikipedia
(Latrodectus tredecimguttatus)
L.lugubris pics available online show an all black flavor.
Fauna Laboratories, Ltd., manufacturer of arthropod venoms in Central Asia...
http://www.faunalabs.com/photos/a142lt.html
I have pondered the logical(?) possibility that the treds (black morphs) from Israel that I and others have recently been keeping are what used to be officially named L.lugubris. ?
I'm extremely curious to whatever info and/or opinion you may have regarding this.![]()
It always makes me smile when questionable references are brought up to help shed light on the truth.That always cracks me up when wikipedia is used as a reference.
Pimpin' out some spiders and tellin' it like it is.L.lugubris spiderlings. This species is native to Central Asia. Some consider them to be identical to L. tredecimguttatus, however, they are a different species.
10.00 each.
Only selling a limited quantity.
Sorry.. "supposed" should have been "supposably" w/Interesting. The L.lugubris that I did have were from Fauna Labs so that would explain my use of that name. What is your source regarding the L.lugubris/L.tredecimguttatus being one-in-the-same?
The Latro genus is currently being overhauled as you may well know. The methodology being used to do this should shed some light on those species currently recognized.
I would be reluctant to use Wikipedia as a valid source of information since just about anyone can write content for them. (Not sure if that was your source, I just noticed you wrote it in your post
It's funny how confusing things can be when dealing with all of the different species isn't it.It always makes me smile when questionable references are brought up to help shed light on the truth.Then again, maybe if we ignore the questionable info that is available to everyone, the bad stuff will just go away on its own.
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Thank gosh! that a "Latrodectus lubugris" search yields good and trustworthy info contradicting what wikipedia has to say. Only 3 or 4 results down from wikipedia's tredecimguttus link..
The Venom List > FS: Latrodectus lugubris spiderlings
Full Version: FS: Latrodectus lugubris spiderlings. The Venom List > Classifieds > For Sale/Trade. Latrodectus. Oct 18 2005, 04:19 PM ...
Pimpin' out some spiders and tellin' it like it is....
Sorry.. "supposed" should have been "supposably" w/...
Im a much more sarcastic person than what i let show.
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Looking all over for where I read about another mid-east specie or two(I thought it was L.dahli ..maybe L.tadzhicus) being renamed ...cant remember if lugubris was mentioned. Cant find that info...so thats moot.
Thats exactly why I was hoping for another opinion ...more info. :?![]()