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Lactrodectus Hesperus

Discussion in 'True Spiders & Other Arachnids' started by Ijk24, Aug 19, 2016.

  1. Ijk24

    Ijk24 Arachnosquire

    Hey guys i recently bought an L. Hesperus and i was wondering if you think that she will molt again heres a picture

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  2. The Snark

    The Snark هرج و مرج مهندس Old Timer

    I doubt that could be answered. No telling by just a picture and L Hesperus aren't seasonal so you will find them molting year round.
  3. chanda

    chanda Arachnoprince Active Member

    Buying an L. hesperus seems so weird to me. I have dozens of them in my garage and around the foundations of my house. Whenever I want one for my collection, I just go outside at night and poke around with a flashlight until I find a nice fat one. They are one of the bread-and-butter species for our local exterminators. Then again, I'm sure you have plenty of cool bugs out there that are commonplace to you but that I'd gladly pay for, if I could get ahold of them. :rolleyes:

    I can't tell from the picture if she is fully mature or not. I don't see any of the dorsal markings that are typical of juveniles, but those can fade before the spider reaches maturity. I've had some juveniles that were fully black before maturity. If she starts laying eggs, then you'll know that she's mature. Once they reach maturity, they can live for another year or year and a half. As a side note, they're really cool to watch when they molt. I was lucky enough to catch one of mine in the act and it was strangely beautiful, like some sort of arachnid ballet/strip-tease.
  4. Ijk24

    Ijk24 Arachnosquire

    Thanks i really never see any black widows where im from so that's why i bought one and i dont think shes fully black yet i see a tiny bit of brown on her legs tho heres another picture hope its a little better

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  5. Rick McJimsey

    Rick McJimsey Arachnoprince Old Timer

    I've had countless adult Hesperus look slightly brown in color. Do you have any pics from above? Younger Hesperus will often have patterning on top of the abdomen prior to their ultimate molt
  6. Ijk24

    Ijk24 Arachnosquire

    Sorry don't have any pics from above yet but when I get home I'll try and get a pic
  7. The Snark

    The Snark هرج و مرج مهندس Old Timer

    I think we be chasing a skittish race horse over the wide open prairie here. Hesperus can lay dud sacks before fully mature, there have been brown and even albino specimens found and so on. Not predictable. Just have to wait and see.
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    JAFUENTES Arachnodragon

    I want an albino widow now. I didn't even know it was a thing. However despite my wanting of one it's a rare occurrence that shouldn't be taken in private but shared amongst all.
  9. Rick McJimsey

    Rick McJimsey Arachnoprince Old Timer

    I've never heard of albinism in Latrodectus. Source? Highly intrigued now.
  10. The Snark

    The Snark هرج و مرج مهندس Old Timer

    It was described to me as a genetic freak or throwback. A juvenile that never developed adult coloration.
  11. Ceymann

    Ceymann Arachnosquire Active Member

    I have been on the hunt for a Latrodectus mactans for a while now, Ill look around during the day time for what looks to be their ideal web, then come back at night only to find a common house/ cob web type of spider. I have been considering ordering a L. hesperus from ken the bug guy, but I live in L. mactans range so I have a hard time doing that when I should be able to find one fairly easy.
  12. Widowman10

    Widowman10 Arachno WIDOW Old Timer

    if there is some brown banding on the legs as you described, that's *almost always* a sign that the spider is still immature

    edit: after looking at that second picture you posted, i can see some of the brown on the legs. if i had to bet, i'd say your spider has at least 1 more molt in her.

    also, i see that i'm about a week late. i should check in more often haha
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  13. Ijk24

    Ijk24 Arachnosquire

    Yep I see those on her legs
  14. RebelWolf

    RebelWolf Arachnosquire

    Latrodectus Hesperus is my favorite specie. I so need to buy one someday. Nice photo
  15. jerremaniac

    jerremaniac Arachnopeon

    Currently housing two mature female L. Hesperus lodgers in terrariums. I find their webbing to be absolutely fascinating. It also made their nests in my front yard really easy to spot! Shy right up until feeding time, and then they mean business!
  16. a guy just found one at work. had it in a green nalgene bottle. could barely see it. im getting it set up in a big container.
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