L.variolus eggsack

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after eating 2 males she decided to give me an eggsack....
 

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I think you'll get the same result soon (if not already)....
 

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Nice pics!
Are there red dots on the abdomen? I can see dots on two of the pics, but I'm not sure if it's some sort of reflection or whatever :?
 
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yes there are.
Remember in an other thread you were asking when they get those red dots, right?

Still your variolus have no spots? very strange....
 

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vardoulas said:
yes there are.
Remember in an other thread you were asking when they get those red dots, right?

Still your variolus have no spots? very strange....
Yep, they never got the dots, may still be variolus as I've heard that not all of them have spots on the abdomen.
The reason I got them was because of the nice red spots and since they all look just like any other black widow (although some of them have a separated hourglass) the absence of spots was a disappointment :(

If any of you guys get spiderlings and want to trade/sell send me a PM :)
 

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Keep an eye on the color of the egg sac...I suspect, as with the L.hesperus I keep out here, that your egg sac will slowly turn greyish in color over the next 2-3 weeks if it is fertile. You can expect it to hatch out in 3-4 weeks depending on the conditions.

With L.hesperus I believe I have been able to induce the spiderlings to hatch out after about 3 weeks by putting a few drops of water in the vial where I hatch out my egg sacs...it is very important to use only a few drops and NOT get any on the sac itself...this method seems to work w/ L.hesperus but it is an arid climate species.

John
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I usualy cut open the eggsac after three weeks or as soon as it turns to an almost brown colour for l. Hesperus. This is essentialy the eggs with legs stage or one molt more developed, Poor them out into a rearing container and they do quite well on prekilled flies each other or fruit flies [with prekilled stuff I usualy just squeeze the head and drop it in hoping to get it stuck in their web, if it does they usualy fidn it and feed on it for awhile. Probably could do the same for that species.
 

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thanks both of you for the info!
so you cut open the eggsacks on your own, right?
Isn't the female latrodectus supposed to open it?

I have no big experience with latrodectus so any help appreciated!
 

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vardoulas said:
so you cut open the eggsacks on your own, right?
Isn't the female latrodectus supposed to open it?

I don't open the sac for them. The babies will come out on their own when they are ready. Usually they come out at the 'point' for L.hesperus.

John
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The sacs neeed no assistance to open trust me. The only reason I cut mine open is I find it significantly easier to divide them while their still the little eggs [about one weak after laying] or at the eggs for legs stage [2-3 weeks] then it is after they hatch on their own because at that point all they want to do is parachute to a new home. lol
 

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thank you for the info guys!
I guess I'll leave it all to mother natures' hands then.
 

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I took the eggsack away from the femlae today and I opened it and here is what it came out....
 

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vardoulas said:
after eating 2 males she decided to give me an eggsack....
HI varoulas,

could you do me a favor and take another picture but this time of the whole jar or bottle or whatever it is that you are keeping the widow in. it looks cool.

i am currently looking for housing materials, jars and bottles, to move some of my widows into. i would like really nice jars or whatever. if you know of a website that sells some, let me know. otherwise, i'm open to creative ideas.
 

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Oh my! So much so little widows :)
I hope mine would still be alive, i like them a lot.

I wish you all the luck with little ones. If you are going to raise them big.
 

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I use the Big 50 dram vials from thorton plastic co. for my adults, you can get a few at a time from the spider shoppe, or in bulk from the thorton plastic website..... all they need is about 3/4'' of substrate, and one or two short sticks to clib on to get a web started. To feed them i just open one side of the lid and place a cricket or worm in the web.
 

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alex21 said:
could you do me a favor and take another picture but this time of the whole jar or bottle or whatever it is that you are keeping the widow in. it looks cool.
Actualy it's not cool....
I'm very minimalistic when it come to housing....
The slings are in an empty plastic jar box :D
I just placed a black t-shirt undreneath it in order to be able to focus on the little slings.

Latrodectus, in my opinion, are very easy to keep and breed.
Just a small box and you're OK!
No substrate no anything...well from time to time something to eat of course.
 
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