L. parahybinia or L. Klugi oxygen chamber

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Has anyone ever raised L. klugi or L. Para. In a pure oxygen chamber? What happened? What size did they get?

How much does an oxygen generator/concentrator cost? Who sells them?
 
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boina

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Has anyone ever raised L. klugi or L. Para. In a pure oxygen chamber? What happened? What size did they get?

How much does an oxygen generator/concentrator cost? Who sells them?
What makes you thing oxygen will affect their growth at all? Why would it?
Maximum size is determined genetically. Whether or not an individual will reach maximum size is determined by environmental factors, but there is a maximum beyond which no environmental tweaking will change anything.
Also look up 'oxygen toxicity'.
This is a really, really bad idea.
 

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Has anyone ever raised L. klugi or L. Para. In a pure oxygen chamber? What happened? What size did they get?

How much does an oxygen generator/concentrator cost? Who sells them?
Are you wanting to try this yourself? How come?

Just FYI I have to use home oxygen, it comes with specific precautions and risks.
 

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Yes, I think that trying a slightly higher heat and high oxygen content would be a worthy experiment.

Potentially, you could get into the Guinness book of records for larger spider ever.

Genes do respond partially to favorable conditions.
 

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I don't think that's the way it works. I know that higher oxygen levels played a role in the size of animals millions of years ago but those beasts were genetically different than the animals we have today. They were bigger not just because of higher oxygen levels but because they were genetically predisposed to be so.

I don't think you will achieve the outcome you're looking for because there are so many factors that can't be accounted for. First, you would have to overcome eons of evolutionary changes. No small feat. While genetics is more understood than ever before, there is no fool proof way for an average Joe to reliably recreate prehistoric sized spiders in their garage. Sure, you might be able to achieve a larger than average sized T if you altered their environment to favor such a mutation but getting a single specimen to be half an inch larger than normal is way different than having a colony of 24" super spiders. It would take many generations to breed a larger than average T that could reliably be bred true. I'm not saying that it can't be done, only that it hasn't been done and I think if it could be done, it probably would have been done by now. That said, if you do try it, I would be interested in seeing any favorable results and what processes were used to create such results. Don't get your hopes up though.
 

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Has anyone ever raised L. klugi or L. Para. In a pure oxygen chamber? What happened? What size did they get?

How much does an oxygen generator/concentrator cost? Who sells them?
Yeah thats definitely a really bad idea. Like the others said too much oxygen is indeed toxic. Concentrated oxygen can actually stop the respiratory system. The lungs will be loaded with O2 therefore will stop the inspire (breathe) to take in more.
 

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I guess I am not understanding (I asked for clarification) but I have always been under the assumption that Ts have fairly low O2 requirements to begin with.
For big growth -- I would go for warmth and lots of food, or something.
(Or buy a species known for larger sizes. lol)
 

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Genes do respond partially to favorable conditions.
Er...no. Definitely not. Not in one generation. Genes change by mutation, not via environmental conditions.

You might be able to breed an especially large spider and keep it alive using slightly higher than usual oxygen levels, but that will take many generations. Since one tarantula generation takes several years to reach maturity your lifetime will probably not be enough to reach your goal.
 

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  1. That would be a ton of money to spend for a set up on 2 dollar sling. Whether you grew a giant or killed it.
 

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... it comes with specific precautions and risks.
As long as you have a candle burning at all times near the tanks, it'll be fine :troll:

I find it funny how many people refuse to try dubia because of the "gross, roaches" response, but people are willing to potentially blow a wing off their house.
 

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As long as you have a candle burning at all times near the tanks, it'll be fine :troll:

I find it funny how many people refuse to try dubia because of the "gross, roaches" response, but people are willing to potentially blow a wing off their house.
Well it seems OP reallllly wants that Guinness record, even at great cost. I do not think this will turn out as he/ she hopes or imagines. And carries a great risk
 
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Has anyone ever raised L. klugi or L. Para. In a pure oxygen chamber? What happened? What size did they get?

How much does an oxygen generator/concentrator cost? Who sells them?
What's wrong with raising them in the traditional manner, your question seems rather far fetched, is there a reason for the specifics, in the question, have you seen them used, do you know anyone who has used one? IMO it would be more hassle/cost/unnatural than raising the sp. the way we have been for decades!
 

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Has anyone ever raised L. klugi or L. Para. In a pure oxygen chamber? What happened? What size did they get?

How much does an oxygen generator/concentrator cost? Who sells them?
The elevated oxygen isn't going to do much as far as stimulating growth, instead try keeping your slings warmer and feed them more often.

Also, Lasiodora spp. will get large but they are dwarfed by Theraphosa's. So if you want to grow out a huge specimen rethink your species...
 

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Also, Lasiodora spp. will get large but they are dwarfed by Theraphosa's. So if you want to grow out a huge specimen rethink your species...
Yes, sooooo many newbies are led to believe that Lasiodora sp. are some uniquely large species....ive heard many claim it was one of the biggest...lol...its not....its big, but there are so many just as big and almost as many that get consistently larger.
 

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Yes, sooooo many newbies are led to believe that Lasiodora sp. are some uniquely large species....ive heard many claim it was one of the biggest...lol...its not....its big, but there are so many just as big and almost as many that get consistently larger.
The T. stirmi or blondi is still the 'biggest' in terms of weight, right? That was pretty much the consensus last time I got into the discussion of biggest Ts.
 

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Yes, sooooo many newbies are led to believe that Lasiodora sp. are some uniquely large species....ive heard many claim it was one of the biggest...lol...its not....its big, but there are so many just as big and almost as many that get consistently larger.
Couldn't of said it any better, the remnants of false information still plague this hobby and yes it's almost exclusively the newbies who get caught up in the thought "my LP is gonna have a 10 inch legspan as an adult". I have yet to see a specimen over 8".
 
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