L. Parahybana(Brazilion salmon pink) questions?

[Weapon-X]

ok today was really cool, i got two 3" Brazilion Salmon Pink's, i've never owned one but have always read about them i have to say these little guys rock, heres some questions folks,
they are 1 year old but are only 3", whats up with that? i thought they would have grown faster, is this a good indication of females?
they are'nt dark , but more an overall cinamon/light orange color(alomost like they still have baby colors), anyone else here see them at 3" with these colors before?
thanks everyone let me know, on a side note i looked at the bottom of their abdomens and did'nt see any fusillae or any long hairs for that matter---Jeff

 

[Lopez]

I would certainly expect them to be larger - perhaps they have not been fed much?
I recently came across a 7" sub-adult female that was just 9 months old.

Feed them up and see what happens....

 

[Weapon-X]

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thanks, one is munching on a cricket right now and the other refused food , pre-molt its abdomen is almost completly black, i'll get em growing ! can't wait until i have some big monsters--Jeff

 

[NightCrawler]

I have two nine month old l.parahybanas and they are only 2" so i don't think its uncommon that they are fairley small at young ages. Like Lopez said they have probably not been feed much

 

[Mike G.]

I recently came across a 7" sub-adult female that was just 9 months old.

I have two nine month old l.parahybanas and they are only 2"

Interesting.....
I too have a new L. parahybana. It is 4"+, and I was told that it was 2-3 yrs old. I have also spoke with (via email) a couple of others from this site that have new parahybanas of similar size. Theirs are just like mine. That is, more brownish than the darker colors you see on the various websites. Also, they are very skittish, and barricade themselves in their hides with a dirt wall. Ours seem to also not have the big appetites as advertised.

I have read on the various sites that L. parahybanas are reported to have huge appetites and can get up to several inches in size in the first year???

I'm starting to think that we are seeing one of the drawbacks of captive born T's. Mother nature hasn't had the opportunity to weed out the weak ones.

Lopez,
is the 7", 9 month parahybana yours, is it a friends, or did you see it at a pet store/breeder??
I'd like to get a large L. parahybana. I still like my parahybana, but if it doesn't get HUGE, I must admit that I will be slightly disappointed, as this is the reason that I purchased this particular species.

Anyone else have any reports at the growth rates of L. parahybanas?????

Thanks,

:? :? Mike G.:? :?

 

[Sean]

Originally posted by Mike G.
Interesting.....
I too have a new L. parahybana. It is 4"+, and I was told that it was 2-3 yrs old. I have also spoke with (via email) a couple of others from this site that have new parahybanas of similar size. Theirs are just like mine. That is, more brownish than the darker colors you see on the various websites. Also, they are very skittish, and barricade themselves in their hides with a dirt wall. Ours seem to also not have the big appetites as advertised.

I have read on the various sites that L. parahybanas are reported to have huge appetites and can get up to several inches in size in the first year???

I'm starting to think that we are seeing one of the drawbacks of captive born T's. Mother nature hasn't had the opportunity to weed out the weak ones.

Lopez,
is the 7", 9 month parahybana yours, is it a friends, or did you see it at a pet store/breeder??
I'd like to get a large L. parahybana. I still like my parahybana, but if it doesn't get HUGE, I must admit that I will be slightly disappointed, as this is the reason that I purchased this particular species.

Anyone else have any reports at the growth rates of L. parahybanas?????

Thanks,

:? :? Mike G.:? :?

Mine is about 4+ inches as well, isnt really eating is brown, iv had him for 2 months still hasnt eatin, so i was kinda trippen but i talked to darrin from phoenix exptics local guy here in phoenix and he said that he had about a half dozen that wouldnt eat for him and sounded similar to mine and they where about the same size, 4 inches being 3-4 years old??? that just dosent sound right you should have a full grown adult if its 3-4 years old atleast 7 inches thats intresting though


Mine isnt every skitish its bald but not skitish it also just sits on top of its hide most of the day rarly going down on the ground occasionally but not often only too get water or if im pokin around in his cage misting, changing water etc... he occasionally runs into his hide but for the most par turns around and starts flickin hairs

i know thats not alot of info but i think mine is pretty normal outside of not eating is yours at all similar to how i described mine mike???

Sean

 

[atmosphere]

How can you trully know the age if you didn't rear them from eggs yourself ?

 

[krystal]

@atmosphere: educated guesses, really. for example, i received my parahybana when she was 1.5". it's obvious she wasn't more than a few months old. i've had her since july of '02 and she is approaching the 5" mark (given the immense size she's gained with each moult, i'm willing to wager she's going to get around 6" next moult--AT LEAST).

i wish i would have kept better track of her moults. in the beginning, she moulted once every month, and recently she's slowed to once every three months or so. i used to keep all of my exuvia, but have since decided to get rid of the vast majority of them since they take up space and i really can't find another wall with room enough for another shadow box filled with exoskeletons.

luckily, there are enthusiasts who are religious about keeping moult records...you just have to search for them, that's all.

 

[LPacker79]

I bought my parahybana back in January, and at that time it was 1.5". Currently it's almost 3 inches. She doesn't molt every month, but since she usually fasts for about 3 weeks beforehand, it makes sense. In order to molt every month, she'd have to fast for 3 weeks, molt, wait a week (sometimes more for her) to eat again, then she'd be molting again.
Now I'm anxious to see how fast the 14 little ones I got from Tony are going to grow.

 

[Mike G.]

is yours at all similar to how i described mine mike???

Sean,
mine has eaten 2-3 times in the month that I've had her. She doesn't flick hairs...instead she runs in her cave.

Everyone,
What temp do you keep yours at??? Mine is around 73 degrees. I'm going to buy another heater and try to get it in the high 70's / low 80's.
I offer her food every other day. I want her to get BIG.
:?

I'm starting to think that we are seeing one of the drawbacks of captive born T's. Mother nature hasn't had the opportunity to weed out the weak ones.

:?
What does everyone think of my statement???
Can the drastic differences in growth rates be the difference from the genetically superior vs the genetically weak, or do you think it is more of a function of temp and feeding???
Thanks,
Mike G.

 

[defour]

Originally posted by Mike G.

What does everyone think of my statement???
Can the drastic differences in growth rates be the difference from the genetically superior vs the genetically weak, or do you think it is more of a function of temp and feeding???
Thanks,
Mike G.

Short answer: yes. I think it's all three, but my feeling is that genetic predisposition is the least of the factors. High temps and lots of food will work wonders on any but the least genetically fit individual (just look at Tattoo from Fantasy Islan... hmmm, bad example.) Potential for maximum size could be a different story though, where heredity might have a larger effect. On the other hand, I may have forgotten to take my medication.

Steve

 

[Lopez]

Originally posted by Mike G.
Interesting.....

Lopez,
is the 7", 9 month parahybana yours, is it a friends, or did you see it at a pet store/breeder??

It was in a specialist pet store (not sure if you have an equivalent in the States, we call them Exotic Pet Shops - normally run by invert/herp enthusiasts).
The spider had just shed and was between 6-7" across. It came in as a 1cm sling and in 9 months had grown to this size. I was pretty amazed myself - I've seen remarkable growth rates achieved by power feeding. My own Curly hair was born in May 2002, I acquired it in February and it's gone from spiderling to almost adult already. The previous keeper fed it once a week, I feed it 3 times a day....

 

[vulpina]

Parahybanas are supposed to be fast growers, mine I don't have any idea how old she is, I bought her from a friend of my fiances, they had her for over 2 years, I've had her about 3 years now, she is about 9".

Andy

 

[Mojo Jojo]

I acquired 15 L. parahybana s'lings from Tony in an arachnocontest. I gave most away, keeping only three. One is outgrowing the other two by leaps and bounds. I imagine that it is a male and that the other two are females.

Jon

 

[conipto]

Regarding the color difference:

http://www.arachnoboards.com/ab/showthread.php?s=&postid=73534#post73534

check that thread out.

Bill

 

[Mojo Jojo]

Have you ever figured out what kind of spider that is Bill? I've never seen an orange L. parahybana.

Jon

 

[Kaos]

Mine grows really fast,. I got it as a small sling in the end of June, it was 1/4 of an inch. It's now 2" +, and eating like a pig, im expecting it to molt soon for the fourth time since i got it.

 

[sunnymarcie]

I have 2 L.p's that I just picked up this month. They are tiny little
slings about the size of a dime.
One eats really good and the other hardly eats at all.
I hope my tiny little guys will become monster T's
They are from different bloodlines, so if they turn out to be one of each sex they will be my first breeding project.

The room I keep them in stays at about 70F. Is that warm enough
for them? (for now)I was thinking about making a box for my sling vials,for heat and humidity (like the one in Marshall's book, pg.87)
Has anyone used that method? Results? Good or bad. Other ideas?
My reason for it is that once winter gets here their room gets cooler and it would be easier to control the heat in a small box
than in the room.

 

[Kaos]

Hi sunnymarcie!

You'll probably have a problem breeding these two if they turn out to be one of each sex, as the male will mature and die much faster than the female. Your temp is also a bit on the low side, you should keep them between 80 and 90F. They might be ok in 70F, but will at least grow slower. They should also have high humidity around 80%+. There's a nice caresheet here:
http://www.invertcare.com/

 

[conipto]

Originally posted by Big Dragonfly
Have you ever figured out what kind of spider that is Bill? I've never seen an orange L. parahybana.

Jon

Look at the last post in that thread..

Bill