Keeping different pokies together

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Please read this before you say anything rude which I don’t think anyone would but I was curious if you took the precautions of keeping similar sized pokie species and making sure they are female to prevent crossed species, would it work? Cause communal pokies are a thing and with multiple species in the genus, again I’m sure it’s still no cause of husbandry but some are similar enough, it’s not something I’m gonna try it just came across my mind.
 

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No seriously, they are not communal, they can live together until certail size, because when they are small they are more tolerant to other individuals. All of this being all of them from the same species and mainly from the same egg sac.

Put different Ts and you will end up having a single one, pretty big and fat one. The only species that shows communal behaviour are balfouris, but even for those, you need to respect some parameters, like enclosure size and food availability. Do not meet one of those parameters and again, you will end having a nice fat T.
 
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Nebs Tarantulas

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Popcorns in the microwave 🤣🤣🤣


No seriously, they are not communal, they can live together until certail size, because when they are small they are more tolerant to other individuals. All of this being all of them from the same species and mainly from the same egg sac.

Put different Ts and you will end up having a single one, pretty big and fat one. The only species that shows communal behaviour are balfouris, but even for those, you need to respect some parameters, like enclosure size and food availability. Do not meet one of those parameters and again, you will end having a nice fat T.
Yeah I know, I wasn’t expecting a positive response but I have heard of a sling communal with 5 P. Rufilata and a P. Regalis, though proving your point, slings
 

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seems like a phenomenally bad idea, i personally don't buy into the "they can be kept communally" idea at all,
i have seen lots of evidence against it and the arguments for it weren't convincing at all


a lot of people seem to want to re-invent the wheel before thy know how to walk, keep them normally for a few years before you decide to play god, by then you will understand your folly
 

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seems like a phenomenally bad idea, i personally don't buy into the "they can be kept communally" idea at all,
i have seen lots of evidence against it and the arguments for it weren't convincing at all


a lot of people seem to want to re-invent the wheel before thy know how to walk, keep them normally for a few years before you decide to play god, by then you will understand your folly
Interesting input, thank you
 

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Yeah I know, I wasn’t expecting a positive response but I have heard of a sling communal with 5 P. Rufilata and a P. Regalis, though proving your point, slings
People do a lot of stupid things, and defend them even when they are obviously failing to achieve them. Like trying a communal and then saying, well I spect some loses etc, keeping different species in the same tank, and defending that they do fine because they avoid each other etc ...
 

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No tarantulas are communal, period.
Exactly the same with " communal " scorpion keeping.
When folks say "I've seen it done with only minimal casualties" is a contradiction in itself.
I don't believe there is any communal, long term, only varying degrees of tolerance.
 

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To keep with the running theme of this thread, I don't agree with the idea of communals. Just seems silly to invite disaster in the form of an environment full of cannibalistic spiders. Don't we play God enough in this hobby? But, I'm actually curious to read the information about the pokie communal you're talking about (the one you heard of) if there's a link or a study you'd be willing to share in reference to it. Obviously, no one here is going to encourage or condone communal setups, and without substantial proof that the species you're trying to commune won't cannibalize (there is none), it's not worth trying to prove an ideology that's flawed in the first place. Not that you would, I know you said in your original post that you were just curious :angelic: It would be less a question of if these "females of a similar size" can be housed together, but rather, can different species be raised together. That said, in answer to your original question:
  • Subfusca
  • Formosa
  • Pedeseni
  • Rufilata
  • Vitatta
  • Regalis
That particular list comes from this article which can/will be easily ripped apart on this forum, and where she got that list, she doesn't say other than saying "experts", but for your reading pleasure: https://cleverpetowners.com/can-two-tarantulas-live-together/
Again, though, this doesn't actually provide the examples of real-life success in the setups.
 

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Please read this before you say anything rude which I don’t think anyone would but I was curious if you took the precautions of keeping similar sized pokie species and making sure they are female to prevent crossed species, would it work? Cause communal pokies are a thing and with multiple species in the genus, again I’m sure it’s still no cause of husbandry but some are similar enough, it’s not something I’m gonna try it just came across my mind.
Communals work but only with very specific genus and species and only recommended for very experienced keepers.

Also by keepers who don't mind shelling out that kind of cash.
 

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Did we walk into DC's Bizarro universe, where everything is opposite, it SURE seems that way!!!

The OP proposed the opposite of the smartest idea I've ever read...I mean I can't take posters like this seriously.

That idea is only superseded by this one that came here once or so "can we make tarantulas vegetarian because I'm vegan"

What other "great" ideas are out there, like we need an Einstein to help us out to come up with something as clever.
 

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I think this is how the spork was invented.. :rofl: Lets say hypothetically you put any number of different species of Poecilotheria together. By law the one that cost you the least will eat the more expensive ones..

But in all seriousness you'll have different growth rates.. Faster growing species will eventually pick off the smaller/weaker ones. I don't think a mixed communal would look as satisfying to the eyes anyway.

You could always get into quilting and make a Poecilotheria blanket with all the species printed on it. Now that's an idea!
 

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I think this is how the spork was invented.. :rofl: Lets say hypothetically you put any number of different species of Poecilotheria together. By law the one that cost you the least will eat the more expensive ones..

But in all seriousness you'll have different growth rates.. Faster growing species will eventually pick off the smaller/weaker ones. I don't think a mixed communal would look as satisfying to the eyes anyway.

You could always get into quilting and make a Poecilotheria blanket with all the species printed on it. Now that's an idea!
Ive always found poesewlotheria to be kindest, most colourful and comforting species
 

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If you decide to do this communal, slap a big ol' Socialist Yugoslavia flag on the enclosure and you'd be watching a recreation of the 90's
:troll:
 

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If you decide to do this communal, slap a big ol' Socialist Yugoslavia flag on the enclosure and you'd be watching a recreation of the 90's
:troll:
I already said it just floated into my mind I had 0 intention of doing it

seems like a phenomenally bad idea, i personally don't buy into the "they can be kept communally" idea at all,
i have seen lots of evidence against it and the arguments for it weren't convincing at all


a lot of people seem to want to re-invent the wheel before thy know how to walk, keep them normally for a few years before you decide to play god, by then you will understand your folly
Yeah like I said it just floated into my brain, it didn’t seem like a good idea but I like to think a lot 😂
 

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cause communal pokies are a thing until they aren't. People try it in Europe because they are cheap and some folks don't mind wasting $$

 

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I don't think a mixed communal would look as satisfying to the eyes anyway.
But may help highlight the fact that metallica’s are not the most phenomenally colored pokies of the bunch when side by side with other species and no direct light on them. 😆
 

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But may help highlight the fact that metallica’s are not the most phenomenally colored pokies of the bunch when side by side with other species and no direct light on them. 😆
P. metallica peak in color at 4.5” then seem to lose much of the extreme blue as they get older. P. subfusca are the real top queens of Poecilotheria if you ask me. Then comes metallica, rufilata, ornata, regalis, vittata.. I dig the creamy coffee color vent band on regalis.. now someone has to print a regalis on a coffee cup.. ☕
 

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P. metallica peak in color at 4.5” then seem to lose much of the extreme blue as they get older. P. subfusca are the real top queens of Poecilotheria if you ask me. Then comes metallica, rufilata, ornata, regalis, vittata.. I dig the creamy coffee color vent band on regalis.. now someone has to print a regalis on a coffee cup.. ☕
My metallica was spazoid. Went to a new home before 4.5”, the member that took him had way more experience. I did recently get a regalis, gonna give ow arboreal one more shot. Not my brightest call, I may become the poster child for idiot moves. 😅
 
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