Venom1080
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my choice is no, but im just wondering about other members opinions..
known smugglers. if you unknowingly buy smuggled spiders its not your fault.No matter how you look at things some of your captive born sling were born by tarantulas that where smuggled so technically we are supporting these sellers.
Okay. If I know someone is smuggling. I won't support them.known smugglers. if you unknowingly buy smuggled spiders its not your fault.
@Redneck are.
i saw another thread with this topic and was interested in what people thought.Okay. If I know someone is smuggling. I won't support them.
I'm just curious if this question is geared towards a certain dealer or is this about another member? Or is this just a curious question in general.
The unnamed dealer has done it more than once as a matter of fact back in the 90's. Caught a few times and still hanging around.A certain unnamed dealer payed their debt according to current law at the time, and is openly selling/importing including posting all permits/licensees on their website. As long as they are currently on the up and up they deserve a second chance just as anybody that has paid their dues. We really cant know for certain about any dealers legitimacy without being on the inside looking out. I think a lot of what is said/started about pricing is just competition not willing to lower their margins or deal in enough volume to have some of the lowest prices out there. In the end its a choice each individual has to make regarding weather they will spend the $$$ with some one that got caught versus the rest which we don't have a clue if they were/are legit. Anybody that has been through the legal system for that particular offense is probably the most scrutinized in the business by USFW. the others who knows.
Known smugglers being- they are or were?
My opinions, if they are STILL smuggling and not trying to do it the legal way. No. I wouldn't support.
If they HAVE smuggled, but it's been a long time and they are currently doing it the legal way, then yes. Why not?
We all make mistakes..ONLY snitching is unforgivable So as long as the smuggler took his lumps and didn't let it roll down hill I could care less ...
As Jose has stated a number of species that we have now are descendents of illegally aquired stock..
I agree with all of these opinions. Plus what the certain unnamed dealer did was many years ago.. people change and grow a lot over the years, to the point that the person we were years ago could be completely replaced by a new person with new morals, attitude and exepriences. The person we were years ago may not even exist anymore. I personally don't think it is fair to judge someone by who they were rather than who they are. We have all done things we likely aren't proud of. Life is hard, we all have to deal with it, so just go easy on eachother and try not to be to harsh.A certain unnamed dealer payed their debt according to current law at the time, and is openly selling/importing including posting all permits/licensees on their website. As long as they are currently on the up and up they deserve a second chance just as anybody that has paid their dues. We really cant know for certain about any dealers legitimacy without being on the inside looking out. I think a lot of what is said/started about pricing is just competition not willing to lower their margins or deal in enough volume to have some of the lowest prices out there. In the end its a choice each individual has to make regarding weather they will spend the $$$ with some one that got caught versus the rest which we don't have a clue if they were/are legit. Anybody that has been through the legal system for that particular offense is probably the most scrutinized in the business by USFW. the others who knows.
Would you hire a convicted pedophile as a babysitter?I personally don't think it is fair to judge someone by who they were rather than who they are
Muahahah, good one! I supposed happened, my man, anyway. With John Wayne Gacy, probably.Would you hire a convicted pedophile as a babysitter?
heheh I think that is rather harsh. I am an ex-convict (not a sexual one) but I am judged everywhere I go. Even though my crimes were a decade ago. I know I have put myself in this situation so try to help give back to my communities, even 9 years on. I found a new path after education inside prison and am glad to say I am completely different from the person I once was. I have been reformed.Would you hire a convicted pedophile as a babysitter?
Ah ah, I forgot to add this, also.Would you hire a convicted pedophile as a babysitter?