I'm going to handle my female pokie Ornata, lacking confidence...

[PidderPeets]

Also here are pictures of both enclosures, Wellenough's will be upgraded as she just molted 2 days ago and grew 2 inches from it, this was the original container I had for her. Festes is more a web type so I have her set up different, and Wellenough I plan on getting another big vertical enclosure for and I have a big his for her, and she likes the branches that are in there so they will get transferred with her water dish and decorations. I do appreciate the few who have honestly inquired about her enclosure. The picture taken with bare enclosure was because I had to clear it out to get to her molt to safely pull it out, that was all. She's never been a sad bare enclosure, ever.

Inside shot, outside for size and Festes current set up

I can't comment much on the pokie enclosure because I don't own pokies, so I'll let others offer any advice needed. Hopefully there will be constructive criticism and not just bashing the setup.

But I would like to offer some advice on the C. versicolor enclosure. They're an arboreal species, so a taller setup would be much more suitable for it. If you can't offer a different enclosure, some fake plants would be extremely helpful, as it would offer more anchor points for webbing and some areas to hide. They also prefer dry substrate, especially in an enclosure that only offers top ventilation. I can post a picture of my enclosure in a bit if need be

 

[Addison Chloe]

Yeah, some forum, first time ever reaching to the internet for insight, all I asked was for insight. I get trolled by people I've never met, and who judge me based off not knowing anything about me. And I get told I suck but not why, and then the enclosure, ppl say, yeah no wonder your spiders blah blah blah, like how is that helpful, why can't people look out for each other and give advise when I guess obviously needed. Bullying someone will only hurt them and their tarantulas. I'm disgusted with 90%of you, and to clear the air, especially since miss people like miss moxie think it's funny to try and point out a porn star, move on, I'm better than that, not anyone but me cares. So yes I am from colorado, yes I smoke weed, and yes whoever asked, I am balanced on vaccines too. I believe that they are motto be trusted but I also don't thinking fair if someone sent their child to school with mumps, and then there was an outbreak, if there is then right situation, take it. And I think its funny how some ppl claim that they are worried about my spiders but them I post pictures and no one has anything??? But that porn star and unicorns really took off. My God people.

 

[TownesVanZandt]

Inside shot, outside for size and Festes current set up

I don´t have any Pokies, but when you do rehouse it, I would make sure that the new enclosure have some proper cork bark and/or a cork tube for it to feel safe. Those branches that you´ve placed like a lavvo doesn´t really work out for an arboreal tarantula.

 

[Addison Chloe]

@pitt

I can't comment much on the pokie enclosure because I don't own pokies, so I'll let others offer any advice needed. Hopefully there will be constructive criticism and not just bashing the setup.

But I would like to offer some advice on the C. versicolor enclosure. They're an arboreal species, so a taller setup would be much more suitable for it. If you can't offer a different enclosure, some fake plants would be extremely helpful, as it would offer more anchor points for webbing and some areas to hide. They also prefer dry substrate, especially in an enclosure that only offers top ventilation. I can post a picture of my enclosure in a bit if need be

@Pitterpeets thank you for your honest and neutral advice. I know the pokie needs a bigger set up, as for Festes, trees I can do, can I bring in natural ones from my trees outside, and swap them out as they get old? Or should I just buy fake ones, I just don't like the idea of the game ones lol and I do know she would enjoy a vertical enclosure, and I would have swapped the two tarantulas when I got Wellenough but I know that her enclosure wouldn't house Festes for much longer so I will plan on getting a vertical enclosure for her as well, and I do keep the substrate mostly set, thats why I spray her once a day, and she comes out to it, it's cool, anyways yes thank you forbthe sounds advice and I will put it use as soom as funds are available in the near future.

 

[Andrea82]

@Addison Chloe
The enclosure for your Avic is...horrible. No leaves, no comfortable place to lounge on, a freakin toiletpaper roll in it. This genus is fairly delicate and has special care requirements. You haven't done one ounce of research into your 'beloved' spiders. If you love them so much, do your homework and redo their enclosures asap. The one for the pokie is far below standards as well.
Start by CARING for them first, and then come talk about your planets aligning and rainbows coming out of your head.

 

[boina]

Are you really quoting flat earth to me? Really? Holy Crap! The earth is roughly an oblate spheroid. I work with GIS every day and this is easily proven and verified (the math works and I use it to place points on a world map every day). Yet here you are, quoting a dude (August Piccards) who got a look at the earth from a balloon, that was at a max of 10 miles from the earths surface and essentially said... "Hey it looked flat to me with slightly upturned edges" as proof that gravity is fake? Oh... My... God.... I really don't know what to say to this...

OMG I missed the flat earth reference! Thank you for pointing that out!

@Addison Chloe - you do have healing powers, I absolutely believe that. I haven't laughed that much in one day for quite a while and I feel great now!

 

[KooBea]

OP ever though of a "Pet Psychic"? Then you would know if Wellenough wanted to be held. A friend of mine took her cat to one and said it helped them live more peacefully together.

 

[Little Grey Spider]

Yeah, some forum, first time ever reaching to the internet for insight, all I asked was for insight. I get trolled by people I've never met, and who judge me based off not knowing anything about me. And I get told I suck but not why

This forum is an excellent tool for newbies to the hobby. Can people be overly harsh? Sure. In fact, I've seen it and have defended people who were being talked down to- even though I haven't agreed with their husbandry. The difference between you and them is that THEY asked, got answers and heeded the advice whereas you have not heard a darn thing experienced keepers have said.
You: "My tarantula loves me, we high five and everything!"
People with decades of experience: "It's actually physically impossible for a tarantula to feel love. You are misinterpreting leg movements and feeding response as 'high fives.'
You: "Na-huh! I know she high fives me! I just KNOW it!"

Your argument has ZERO basis in scientific fact and flies in the face of everything experience has taught us...

"think it's funny to try and point out a porn star, move on, I'm better than that"

I couldn't give less of a <poop> if you were a porn star- honestly. I don't think people who work in adult entertainment should be shamed for their choice of employment.

You feel <pooped> on. I get it. But you're not even remotely open to the possibility that you are WRONG.

Bottom line, handle your Pokie if you wish. You have been sufficiently educated on the inherent risks in doing so. If you choose to blatantly disregard common sense and experienced keeper's advice, well.... I don't know what to tell you.
FYI, when I said you're either high or mentally ill, that wasn't a joke. You've admitted now you smoke weed. I myself do not partake, but I would implore you not to attempt this ill fated handling experiment while under the influence of drugs or alcohol.

I've written this as respectfully and factually as I could. Let's see if you listen.

 

[Addison Chloe]

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@Addison Chloe
The enclosure for your Avic is...horrible. No leaves, no comfortable place to lounge on, a freakin toiletpaper roll in it. This genus is fairly delicate and has special care requirements. You haven't done one ounce of research into your 'beloved' spiders. If you love them so much, do your homework and redo their enclosures asap. The one for the pokie is far below standards as well.
Start by CARING for them first, and then come talk about your planets aligning and rainbows coming out of your head.

@Andrea82 you mixed the two up, the toilet paper roll one is the pokie, the avic. Is in the horizontal one, and her skull is heated and she loves lounging that often, I said I would leaves, sounds like that s all im missing so you don't need to assume your <edit> comment about me not doing one ounce of research into my spiders, I don't need to say it's horse puckey but I will. You need to come across better if you want your point taken.

 

[Little Grey Spider]

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@Andrea82 you mixed the two up, the toilet paper roll one is the pokie, the avic. Is in the horizontal one, and her skull is heated and she loves lounging that often, I said I would leaves, sounds like that s all im missing so you don't need to assume your <edit> comment about me not doing one ounce of research into my spiders, I don't need to say it's horse puckey but I will. You need to come across better if you want your point taken.

The Avic needs a vertical enclosure- not horizontal. I'd also eliminate any heat element (skull). They do not need supplemental heat. Tall enclosure with good ventilation, dry sub, water dish and climbing things. That's all that should be in there.

 

[Patherophis]

@Addison Chloe So You keep Avicularia, the most arboreal tarantula of all, in enclosure for terestrial. But yeah, problem is that everyone here is bad on You and You know what You are doing ...

 

[Haksilence]

I just read all 13 pages. @advan I'd like a request for this to be locked. Threads like this do nothing but perpetuate idiocy and don't benefit anyone or that hobby at all.

The OP is clearly trolling, or very very ignorant, whichever the case. She clearly does not care for any information we can provide her and will do whatever she wants regardless.

There's no reason to allow drama like this to continue.

@Addison Chloe
You said you didn't care for science, but you do realize this board is built from and for science. Sorry but you're in the wrong place, if you wanted sheep to mindlessly and uneducated support you then you should probably stick to Facebook.

 

[boina]

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@Andrea82 you mixed the two up, the toilet paper roll one is the pokie, the avic. Is in the horizontal one, and her skull is heated and she loves lounging that often, I said I would leaves, sounds like that s all im missing so you don't need to assume your shitty comment about me not doing one ounce of research into my spiders, I don't need to say it's horse puckey but I will. You need to come across better if you want your point taken.

There is a pretty good chance that your Avic will not survive the treatment you are putting it through - lack of safe retreat (high up), heated skull - omg, that's a death trap if there ever was one. Of course your Avic loves it - it increases it's metabolism and makes it feel more active. It also desiccates it. Heat is a kind of drug for a spider and too much of it in an enclosed space may very well kill it.

You really have not done much research and Andrea was understandably upset about your lack of understanding of the basic need of those creatures you profess to love.

 

[Andrea82]

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@Andrea82 you mixed the two up, the toilet paper roll one is the pokie, the avic. Is in the horizontal one, and her skull is heated and she loves lounging that often, I said I would leaves, sounds like that s all im missing so you don't need to assume your shitty comment about me not doing one ounce of research into my spiders, I don't need to say it's horse puckey but I will. You need to come across better if you want your point taken.

That makes it so much better.
You're not even close to providing them with the care they need.
You are 'missing' a lot. Most of it is not even closely related to your spiders.

 

[Thistles]

No one's gonna say anything about her claim that evolution was disproved? I know it's a tiny drop in a sea of science denial and irrationality, but wow.

 

[Grace Cannell]

No one's gonna say anything about her claim that evolution was disproved? I know it's a tiny drop in a sea of science denial and irrationality, but wow.

There's so much denial-based lunacy on here, and OP is not willing to take anything anyone has said in, other than she is being attacked, it's not worth your breath.

 

[miss moxie]

Yes, there's enough to her already, there's no need to add to it.
And there's especially no need to slander her - that's just too low.

Nowhere did I say OP was an adult film star. I don't think ANYONE actually said OP was an adult film star. It was pointed out not to google OP's username and when further explored it was revealed that Googling "Addison Chloe" brings up results for an ACTUAL adult film star-- Chloe Addison.

No one was slandering her, merely amused at the results of a google search.

 

[Eva]

Nowhere did I say OP was an adult film star. I don't think ANYONE actually said OP was an adult film star. It was pointed out not to google OP's username and when further explored it was revealed that Googling "Addison Chloe" brings up results for an ACTUAL adult film star-- Chloe Addison.

No one was slandering her, merely amused at the results of a google search.

I misunderstood. Sorry

 

[Chris LXXIX]

Sorry

A sorry with the 'bag' icon after is something amazing. Takes that sentiment to another level

Not even near the Goddess* hissing magnanimous and benign voice, but worth of note, worth of note indeed

* 0.1 Pelinobius muticus PBUH (Peace Be Upon Her)

 

[Addison Chloe]

This forum is an excellent tool for newbies to the hobby. Can people be overly harsh? Sure. In fact, I've seen it and have defended people who were being talked down to- even though I haven't agreed with their husbandry. The difference between you and them is that THEY asked, got answers and heeded the advice whereas you have not heard a darn thing experienced keepers have said.
You: "My tarantula loves me, we high five and everything!"
People with decades of experience: "It's actually physically impossible for a tarantula to feel love. You are misinterpreting leg movements and feeding response as 'high fives.'
You: "Na-huh! I know she high fives me! I just KNOW it!"

Your argument has ZERO basis in scientific fact and flies in the face of everything experience has taught us...

"think it's funny to try and point out a porn star, move on, I'm better than that"

I couldn't give less of a <poop> if you were a porn star- honestly. I don't think people who work in adult entertainment should be shamed for their choice of employment.

You feel <pooped> on. I get it. But you're not even remotely open to the possibility that you are WRONG.

Bottom line, handle your Pokie if you wish. You have been sufficiently educated on the inherent risks in doing so. If you choose to blatantly disregard common sense and experienced keeper's advice, well.... I don't know what to tell you.
FYI, when I said you're either high or mentally ill, that wasn't a joke. You've admitted now you smoke weed. I myself do not partake, but I would implore you not to attempt this ill fated handling experiment while under the influence of drugs or alcohol.

I've written this as respectfully and factually as I could. Let's see if you listen.

Alright, @littlegreyspider I need to clear the air now thank you. So first off don't claim to be helpful and like comment that when your first comment here was just ragging on me like the majority. You did not lend a helping hand, just insensitive and judgemental and opinionated for sure! Let's get some facts straight though since you have them distorted.
You said The difference between curious noobs in me is that I "haven't heard a darn thing experienced keepers have said." That is a lie, and then you continued to wrongly quote me, twice! Now you're just making stuff up.
Factually I acknowledged and in fact thanked anyone who reached out in at least a constructively critical way and thanked them and stated I understood the severity of my implication and know the outcome of a bite or a drop or a run. And dare I ask for insight, i instead got initially attacked, laughed at, and told told to do it so everyone else could get a bite report, that's blatant lack for human decency period. I didn't ask for ANY OF that, I didn't ask for people to literally tell me I'm stupid, a dumbass, crazy, unintelligent, irresponsible and a slew of other sad ugly comments. I have NEVER once told anyone here that I thought all the experience they have is stupid or that I didn't believe it or I thought it was wrong. All I did was ask questions, then again, I acknowledged the warnings that weren't warnings but bashful posts telling me TO do it, and all i got was more and then porn star comments yes. And Jesus, I am sorry that you took my comment as porn star shaming, I don't have time or care to open star shame, if you can do it good for you, I can't, that's all, end of story.
Also, to continue with your wrong assumptions, I do not for the record, feel <pooped> on. Ive been laughing, and in awe of the disgusting fifth reactions I've been receiving all night and day from your so called experts. For the record experienced people and experts do not make people feel like they did, would they talk to that first timer 15yr like that, I bet you not, but maybe, wouldn't put it past them now. But yes they have human decency, and don't make childish, native judgments to strangers, I don't know who these people are and I have taken their input despite their disrespect and judgements.
So bottom line, I do want to hold my pokie Ornata, will I do it tomorrow? No, it will probably be another year, I was simply asking for insight, I didn't know this out of the water, it was everyone's reactions and if they hadn't been so inhumane and bullyish I probably wouldn't be writing this right now, but here I am because I am not afraid to stand up for myself and FYI, it's stupid of you, in my opinion, to re iterate your screwed up comment about high or mentally ill. Yes I was honest about my pot smoking, for my back at night, that does not affect my daily mental, and shouldn't matter anyways, however, it should never be okay to poke at the mentally ill, that was low and disrespectful of you, no Im not mentally ill either and ideally hope you can take a look in the mirror and really see who has been the crazy one in this, I know it's not smart to handle pokies, but I wanted to honestly ask for insight, last time, this obviously was not the place, no matter