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If A Brocklehursti doesn't exist, what do I have?

Discussion in 'Tarantula Questions & Discussions' started by aarachnid, Sep 16, 2019.

  1. aarachnid

    aarachnid Arachnosquire Active Member

    I went to an expo this weekend with my heart set on getting a pair of A Genic slings because I had heard they are very fast growing. My partner and I got there late, and they were all sold out. A vendor suggested I get an A Brocklehursti instead. She described them as being cousins that grew about the same, had the same care, and she showed me that the adults look a lighter version (color-wise) version of A Genic. After googling, I found out this is an outdated name. I just want to make sure, does this look like an A Theraphoides sling? Just want to make sure I'm taking care of this critter correctly, and that I know what to expect as it grows.

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  2. The Grym Reaper

    The Grym Reaper Arachnoreaper Arachnosupporter

    IIRC, hobby A. brocklehursti is A. geniculata
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  3. aarachnid

    aarachnid Arachnosquire Active Member

    Huh? Guess I ended up with what I wanted in the end, then..?
  4. The Grym Reaper

    The Grym Reaper Arachnoreaper Arachnosupporter

    Yeah, just looked it up, the A. brocklehursti sold in the hobby are just a regional variant of A. geniculata, the real A. brocklehursti is completely different spider which was found to be a junior synonym of A. theraphosoides.

    What you have is A. geniculata so you did indeed get what you originally wanted.
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  5. aarachnid

    aarachnid Arachnosquire Active Member

    I am happy and sort of perplexed! Thank you. :)
  6. The Grym Reaper

    The Grym Reaper Arachnoreaper Arachnosupporter

    No worries. It's one of the weird/annoying thing that happens in the hobby, collectors/exporters misidentifying species and then the names just stick.

    Another example would be that the species sold in the hobby as Holothele sericea isn't the real Holothele sericea (which is now Scopelobates sericeus).
  7. aarachnid

    aarachnid Arachnosquire Active Member

    Okay, so I did a bit more lurking on the forum. I want to make a label for her enclosure. Would it be best to label her Acanthoscurria Geniculata “Brocklehursti” Form?
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  8. Asgiliath

    Asgiliath Arachnoknight Active Member

    Huh! I also got an a. genic labeled this way at an expo.
  9. aarachnid

    aarachnid Arachnosquire Active Member

    Did you go to Oaks this weekend?
  10. Asgiliath

    Asgiliath Arachnoknight Active Member

    Nope! It was at a south Florida Repticon.

    It was odd because usually nhando coloratovillosus are the ones labeled as “Brazilian black and white” (I have one of those too). Ahh...common names.
  11. aarachnid

    aarachnid Arachnosquire Active Member

    I hate common names so badly. The expo had lots of “curly hair tarantulas” and they didn’t all look the same species!! To my untrained eye, at least. I would be upset if I ended up with a Nhandu, they’re on my “researched but not ready for yet” list! Lol.
  12. volcanopele

    volcanopele Arachnosquire

    Piggybacking off this question: I have an geniculata juvenile male and a brocklehursti morph female (mature/almost full size). My plan was to not breed them so as to not create any potential cross-breeds. Still the right idea or is there literally no difference between hobby brocklehursti and regular genics?
  13. Asgiliath

    Asgiliath Arachnoknight Active Member

    The curly hairs could have all been b. albo’s just Honduran as well as Nicaraguan forms. Their hairs tend to me slightly different colors. I have both but the Nicaraguan is still a sling so I can’t tell how different they look yet. Damn, I have three albo’s...why even??
  14. AphonopelmaTX

    AphonopelmaTX Moderator Staff Member

    The species name "brocklehursti" should disappear from the hobby. However, it doesn't matter what you put on the label so call it whatever you want.

    Yes, that is the right idea. The only real difference between the two is that males of what is being sold as Acanthoscurria brocklehursti should not have vertical lines on the legs. I say "should" because who knows if all hobby "A. brocklehursti" are actually the same.
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  15. Teal

    Teal Arachnoemperor Old Timer

    I hope you didn't pay more for that name than what they were selling spiders labeled as A. genic o_O
  16. aarachnid

    aarachnid Arachnosquire Active Member

    Not gonna lie, I paid more than I normally would have. Not by a bunch, but yeah... I’m still confused, she had A Genics earlier in the day she had sold out of and showed me a pic of what the one I got would look like compared to an A Genic (more brown than black, still has white bands). I’m gonna just call her an A Genic and see what happens as she grows and molts. Guessing she isn’t a candidate for breeding! Lol
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  17. SonsofArachne

    SonsofArachne Arachnoangel Active Member

    Last year I got a "brocklehursti" as a freebie. I still list it as such because A; the slight difference, or B; I keep forgetting to change it - take your pick :D
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  18. The Grym Reaper

    The Grym Reaper Arachnoreaper Arachnosupporter

    The different forms are labelled "wide band" and "narrow band (ex brocklehursti)" here IIRC
  19. aarachnid

    aarachnid Arachnosquire Active Member

    Thank you for that!! That also explains why the adult picture of the “Brocklehursti” she showed me looked different from the adult A Genic pic she showed me.
  20. LV-426

    LV-426 Arachnobaron

    I went there Saturday, was it the Fairytale Dragons table? I got a C. marshalli sling from them.
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