Id Please

[FFScorpion]

Hi,
I just got another lycosa and I was thinking if I could put then together( I already have one) , can anyone ID then and tell me if I can put then in the same tank.

 

[cacoseraph]

i do not think putting them together would be a good idea


the only way you might be able to get away with that is if you had a male and female of the same species, and the male was mature

i don't think either of those is a mature male, but the second one is at a funny angle to tell for sure

 

[FFScorpion]

the second ist bigger than the fisrt one, 2,5cm(body), 4,5(legs), the first1,5(body), 3,5(legs) and the fisrt has a orange cheliceras. How can I ID the mature male??

 

[cacoseraph]

mature males of most spiders have a visibly swollen palpal bulb on the end of their pedipalps (their "arms" by the mouth)

i don't think i see it on either of those spiders.

oh and not always... but sometimes having red chelicerae like that means the venom might be strong

Phonuetria "wandering spiders" have red chelicerae like that and are VERY strong venom!

you have very pretty spiders!

i am NOT saying this is what you have... i won't be able to ID to species for sure... but there is something called "Lycosa erythrognatha"

erythro = red
gnatha = jaw

http://www.anura.it/Fotografia/Ragni_lupo/L_erythrognatha1.htm

http://www.saude.rj.gov.br/animaispeconhentos/lycosa.html
says 2-3cm body, 5-6cm legspan for L.redjaw

edit: ahahha, i couldn't figure out why the spanish wasn't making much sense to me until i remember Brazil= Portuguesa

 

[FFScorpion]

Hi,
Thanks for all the info, u r been very help full to me, and about your mistake unfurtunully it’s a very common mistake, don´t worry about it.

Thanks again, will try to post more pics.

 

[FFScorpion]

And that one can you ID??

 

[lucanidae]

My guess is Clubionidae, but it's just a guess.