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Or not. I am NOT an animal trainer. Under any circumstances. On a scale of 1 to 10 I'm around -7.
A new batch of rescued animals. This time 3 cats. 4 or so years of shredded furniture, getting clawed and bitten, and me alternating between yelling and ignoring, I got a good slap in the face. Along the lines of "Hey idiot. You're a horse gentler and a good one. Stop being a complete moron." Duhhhhhh. For the record which many people already are aware of, horse gentling is not training. Not even remotely related. But that isn't the subject here.
So, following my well deserved chewing out I reversed gear and radically corrected my thinking. They aren't cats. Shift out of the mode of categorizing and labeling. They are, and we cohabitate with them.
Shredding the furniture.
The horse slashes with a hind leg. Takes a nip at me. Prances away. Bites and kicks the other horses. -> I am bored out of my mind! Stuck in this stupid stall and going in circles month after month, year after year!! Primal brain kicks in, more thinking mind is OFF.
Cat shreds furniture. Yell 100 times, admonish, whatever. Won't get through. Functional brain is off. Primal runs show.
Okay cat, let's keep you in the here and now. You're bored. You need diversion that over-rides primal. You like to be petted? Interacted with. Here you go. Cat gets to thinking-> how about some attention? You want it, you get it. Only for a moment is sufficient. After a few months the cats started moving towards me instead of shredding.
Horse lashes, bites. I get on it's back-> Now, what do you want? Horse-> uhhhh... well, that wasn't exactly the plan but this is okay. Maybe we get out of this stall for a while?
Cat bites when it is touched. Horse bites when it is touched. I grab it's tail and pull. HEY! STOP THAT! And I stop. Next time, same game. Shove it around with my shoulder. It dodges away . I got back to whatever I was doing. Grab cats tail. ATTACK! Oh nuts, he's quick! Repeat. Repeat. Cat slowly gets to thinking 'this is getting old.' Until finally, okay, grab my tail. Whatever. At least I'm getting some attention. Primal mode diverted.
Cat accepts a moments petting then primal! Bites!! Horse lashes at me while I'm grooming it. I shoulder shove it against the fence and don't take no. Is this what you wanted? Getting shoved around all over the corral? Stand still and I'll lay off.
Cat brain is faster than horse. Suddenly grabbed by the scruff of the neck. Maybe a firm "NO." Then let go and go back to petting. Repeat, repeat. A few weeks of getting bitten at gets the message across. Cat equates: scruff of neck-> I lose control of me. I. Do. Not. Like. That. (All three of our cats did this. It took a few months then bite vanishes. Now when I gently grab the scruff they all freeze-> Did I do something wrong? Horse-> Just don't shove me around. I'll stand still.
Same same with other traits. Primal over-riding the brain. Pet the cat's tummy = DIRE ASSAULT!!
It took a few months with this. Cat's all get a picked up and petted. But only for a moment. Safely, comfortably draped over one arm then the softest strokes then SLOWLY, carefully, placed back on their feet, held still for a moment then let go. All of five seconds of your time, repeated many times a day. Held in arms = no big deal. Then the cat is laid on it's back in your arm, firmly but gently then the slowly and carefully put back on it's feet. Extend the time in your arms. Now all three cats allow lying on their backs in my arms and let me pet their tummys. Same with horses. They may have places they do NOT like to be touched. A very quick touch then gone. A dozen times a day if possible. Eventually, no big deal. Repeat, repeat. Remember, animals are here and now critters. Memory comes on much slower than with humans.
Watching my wife. Cat bites her feet. Snags her with claws. Have yet to get it through her head the basics of NO. Of the tail grab. Of the assurance picked up and put back down ever so carefully. She's much harder to train than the cats or horses.
Our three cats. EXTREME different personalities.
See Cow the catatonic. VERY fussy bitchy with the wife. With me, a cat puddle. Ultimately laconic. Rarely reacts at all with the casual pet. May roll over on her back for a tummy pet. Wife will end up splotched with povidone iodine if she tries it.
Gnarly. Professional top flight neurotic furniture destroyer, formerly. Restless, endlessly circling and pacing. Calm, placid and gaining weight after 5 months of assurance hugs.
Snit. A cross between Bart Simpson and Mr. Bean. A brat with the brain half off most of the time. Attention turned him into a doting demanding dog like thing. Follows me around everywhere. Recently discovered laying across my shoulders gives him a birds eye view of activities going on around him. Climbs my leg for pets. He is patiently waiting outside my office door right now, waiting for attention, or is trying to romp on Gnarly. Pure wind up doll.
A new batch of rescued animals. This time 3 cats. 4 or so years of shredded furniture, getting clawed and bitten, and me alternating between yelling and ignoring, I got a good slap in the face. Along the lines of "Hey idiot. You're a horse gentler and a good one. Stop being a complete moron." Duhhhhhh. For the record which many people already are aware of, horse gentling is not training. Not even remotely related. But that isn't the subject here.
So, following my well deserved chewing out I reversed gear and radically corrected my thinking. They aren't cats. Shift out of the mode of categorizing and labeling. They are, and we cohabitate with them.
Shredding the furniture.
The horse slashes with a hind leg. Takes a nip at me. Prances away. Bites and kicks the other horses. -> I am bored out of my mind! Stuck in this stupid stall and going in circles month after month, year after year!! Primal brain kicks in, more thinking mind is OFF.
Cat shreds furniture. Yell 100 times, admonish, whatever. Won't get through. Functional brain is off. Primal runs show.
Okay cat, let's keep you in the here and now. You're bored. You need diversion that over-rides primal. You like to be petted? Interacted with. Here you go. Cat gets to thinking-> how about some attention? You want it, you get it. Only for a moment is sufficient. After a few months the cats started moving towards me instead of shredding.
Horse lashes, bites. I get on it's back-> Now, what do you want? Horse-> uhhhh... well, that wasn't exactly the plan but this is okay. Maybe we get out of this stall for a while?
Cat bites when it is touched. Horse bites when it is touched. I grab it's tail and pull. HEY! STOP THAT! And I stop. Next time, same game. Shove it around with my shoulder. It dodges away . I got back to whatever I was doing. Grab cats tail. ATTACK! Oh nuts, he's quick! Repeat. Repeat. Cat slowly gets to thinking 'this is getting old.' Until finally, okay, grab my tail. Whatever. At least I'm getting some attention. Primal mode diverted.
Cat accepts a moments petting then primal! Bites!! Horse lashes at me while I'm grooming it. I shoulder shove it against the fence and don't take no. Is this what you wanted? Getting shoved around all over the corral? Stand still and I'll lay off.
Cat brain is faster than horse. Suddenly grabbed by the scruff of the neck. Maybe a firm "NO." Then let go and go back to petting. Repeat, repeat. A few weeks of getting bitten at gets the message across. Cat equates: scruff of neck-> I lose control of me. I. Do. Not. Like. That. (All three of our cats did this. It took a few months then bite vanishes. Now when I gently grab the scruff they all freeze-> Did I do something wrong? Horse-> Just don't shove me around. I'll stand still.
Same same with other traits. Primal over-riding the brain. Pet the cat's tummy = DIRE ASSAULT!!
It took a few months with this. Cat's all get a picked up and petted. But only for a moment. Safely, comfortably draped over one arm then the softest strokes then SLOWLY, carefully, placed back on their feet, held still for a moment then let go. All of five seconds of your time, repeated many times a day. Held in arms = no big deal. Then the cat is laid on it's back in your arm, firmly but gently then the slowly and carefully put back on it's feet. Extend the time in your arms. Now all three cats allow lying on their backs in my arms and let me pet their tummys. Same with horses. They may have places they do NOT like to be touched. A very quick touch then gone. A dozen times a day if possible. Eventually, no big deal. Repeat, repeat. Remember, animals are here and now critters. Memory comes on much slower than with humans.
Watching my wife. Cat bites her feet. Snags her with claws. Have yet to get it through her head the basics of NO. Of the tail grab. Of the assurance picked up and put back down ever so carefully. She's much harder to train than the cats or horses.
Our three cats. EXTREME different personalities.
See Cow the catatonic. VERY fussy bitchy with the wife. With me, a cat puddle. Ultimately laconic. Rarely reacts at all with the casual pet. May roll over on her back for a tummy pet. Wife will end up splotched with povidone iodine if she tries it.
Gnarly. Professional top flight neurotic furniture destroyer, formerly. Restless, endlessly circling and pacing. Calm, placid and gaining weight after 5 months of assurance hugs.
Snit. A cross between Bart Simpson and Mr. Bean. A brat with the brain half off most of the time. Attention turned him into a doting demanding dog like thing. Follows me around everywhere. Recently discovered laying across my shoulders gives him a birds eye view of activities going on around him. Climbs my leg for pets. He is patiently waiting outside my office door right now, waiting for attention, or is trying to romp on Gnarly. Pure wind up doll.
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