Edan bandoot
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Title seems pretty self explanatory
Sterile meaning lack of foreign biomass and not incapable of reproduction.And yet, I'm confused. Are you asking how to take moss that is not sterile and propagate it in a way that renders it sterile? Do you have "sterile" moss that you want to propagate?
Taking wild moss and rendering it sterile AND viable is...not trivial outside of a research lab. There are a handful of research labs working with sterile mosses, but these have been established by sterilizing spores and cultivating them in media that is optimized for that species of moss. The moss is then grown in that medium in sterile containers, because any exposure to air outside a clean room will immediately render it no longer sterile.Sterile meaning lack of foreign biomass and not incapable of reproduction.
The ideal answer would communicate how to take wild unsterile moss and remove all microfauna without killing said moss.
I think this is closest to your second scenario.
Do you know how long it would take to establish a large bit of moss straight from spores?Taking wild moss and rendering it sterile AND viable is...not trivial outside of a research lab. There are a handful of research labs working with sterile mosses, but these have been established by sterilizing spores and cultivating them in media that is optimized for that species of moss. The moss is then grown in that medium in sterile containers, because any exposure to air outside a clean room will immediately render it no longer sterile.
Edit: if you're just using the moss for an enclosure, sterility isn't necessary. You'd be better off simply soaking and flushing the moss with plenty of fresh water and calling it a day. Unless you have some specific requirement for sterility?
i don't know. probably depends on the species. i expect for temperate species it's probably relatively quick since the moss season is short, but biomass accumulation would definitely vary.Do you know how long it would take to establish a large bit of moss straight from spores?
Well i found an 8 year old youtube video about collecting moss spores and it looks easy enough.i don't know. probably depends on the species. i expect for temperate species it's probably relatively quick since the moss season is short, but biomass accumulation would definitely vary.
HiTitle seems pretty self explanatory
do you rinse the dirt and macrofauna off the moss before you blend it, or do you blend it with the dirt?Hi
moss propagation is fairly easy.
Not familiar with which species exactly you are willing to propagate but this is what I do with many species for my planted tanks
Get your starter portion.Put it in a blender with a bit of water and few drops of yoghurt and blend it.Then apply it to the wood/stones using paint brush. Put them in clear storage bin,empty tank and cover it with cling film.Keep spraying gently to keep it as moist and environment as humid as the chosen starter moss requires.Open the cling film once twice per day for ventilation.
There are plenty of YouTube videos about that method (Dry start method for growing aquarium moss, also Dry start moss mudd metod )
Regards Konstantin
Those nematodes and worms keep the soil healthy, they are not pasarites, they feed from decaying organic matter. I have then on my vivs from day one, any single issue so far. So there is no need to worry about.Well i found an 8 year old youtube video about collecting moss spores and it looks easy enough.
I want to try this route because the last time I propagated moss it was full of nematodes and other weird long worms. Although they may be harmless I find them unsightly.
buttermilk! Do you know what the role of the buttermilk is? Is it for acidity?Those nematodes and worms keep the soil healthy, they are not pasarites, they feed from decaying organic matter. I have then on my vivs from day one, any single issue so far. So there is no need to worry about.
Take the moss and rinse it generously with low mineral water, hard water could kill the moss. Add it to the blender with a bit of buttermilk and water. Spread the small pieces in a acidic substrate.
Didnt ask bro read what I wrote, I said unsightly.Those nematodes and worms keep the soil healthy, they are not pasarites, they feed from decaying organic matter. I have then on my vivs from day one, any single issue so far. So there is no need to worry about.
If that's the problem, let it dry, and follow the same steps. Anyway the probabilities of having those nemadotes again are high, even in sterile moss, as this is not the only source where they can enter to our enclosures. Feeders, substrates, plants... those are common sources, or are you going to sterilize everything?Didnt ask bro read what I wrote, I said unsightly.
Yes, but also nutrients.buttermilk! Do you know what the role of the buttermilk is? Is it for acidity?
Or inside oneTaking wild moss and rendering it sterile AND viable is...not trivial outside of a research lab.
Does the buttermilk or yogurt smell a bit foul? Also I have been wanting to do this on a carved styofoam background, would it erode or crumble the Styrofoam as it establishes?Yes, but also nutrients.
Easy answer is don't....all the microfauna is a blessing, not something you should be looking to be rid of.The ideal answer would communicate how to take wild unsterile moss and remove all microfauna without killing said moss