how to get dubia out enclosure

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a dubia I thought I had pre killed was actually alive and has buried itself under a piece of cork bark my T is in premolt so i don't think my T is going to eat it worried about the roach eating the t during molting
 

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a dubia I thought I had pre killed was actually alive and has buried itself under a piece of cork bark my T is in premolt so i don't think my T is going to eat it worried about the roach eating the t during molting
If you can't grab it with tweezers or something, you can bait it with food sometimes, but I wouldn't worry about that too much yet either, that T is not close to molt yet. The dark spot where the urticating hairs is will appear to spread until the whole abdomen gets dark, and then shiny. Then a molt is imminent. That will take a bit, probably a couple of months from when it starts even, so you have time. The roach may die by then even, doubtful but it might.
 

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If you can't grab it with tweezers or something, you can bait it with food sometimes, but I wouldn't worry about that too much yet either, that T is not close to molt yet. The dark spot where the urticating hairs is will appear to spread until the whole abdomen gets dark, and then shiny. Then a molt is imminent. That will take a bit, probably a couple of months from when it starts even, so you have time. The roach may die by then even, doubtful but it might.
different T its a smaller one
 

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Well, I would try if a molt is close. Sometimes they just bury and stay there for months and are zero bother to the T. Dubia anyhow is the least worrisome of common feeders, I've never actually seen one attack anything molting. Red runners and crickets are a different story, they'll wait for the opportunity and take it. It will grow faster than the T by a longshot though, then that gets worrisome if it started out an appropriate size then grows to be larger than the T.
 

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Well, I would try if a molt is close. Sometimes they just bury and stay there for months and are zero bother to the T. Dubia anyhow is the least worrisome of common feeders, I've never actually seen one attack anything molting. Red runners and crickets are a different story, they'll wait for the opportunity and take it.
its quite small and was gut loaded before i tried to feed so it shouldn't be hungry cant really reach in there to get it because the t has decided the best place is right near where the enclosure opens the only other option i have is to rehouse it into a bigger enclosure
 

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Yeah, I'd just wait for a better opportunity. If it's a species that cocoons itself completely for a molt, it's usually not an issue at all, if it's one that makes a mat and lays out in the open it could be.
 

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Yeah, I'd just wait for a better opportunity. If it's a species that cocoons itself completely for a molt, it's usually not an issue at all, if it's one that makes a mat and lays out in the open it could be.
its a ceratogyrus meridionalis so it has a little web tunnel but hasn't bothered burrowing at all
 

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Dubia isn't going to harm the T, but it can be very stressful for the T beacuse they dig all the time. I've had one hide in a Brachypelma enclosure , the spider was about 3". The T didn't molt until the very same day I removed the escaped dubia after 3 months. So I am pretty certain it's not pleasant.

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It probably will for molt, or close itself in the little tunnel, should be fine.
ok thanks

Dubia isn't going to harm the T, but it can be very stressful for the T beacuse they dig all the time. I've had one hide in a Brachypelma enclosure , the spider was about 3". The T didn't molt until the very same day I removed the escaped dubia after 3 months. So I am pretty certain it's not pleasant.

Regards,

Don
if i see it out i will grab it
 

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’ve never fed dubia, but I’d never leave a live feeder with a T I thought was showing signs of molting soon. It’s just not worth it to me. Are you able to cup the T and search for the roach?
 

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You'll never find a dubia without tearing everything apart. I was dumb enough to wait it out and then pick it up + the dubia was 2x the size she got in when i got it out.

Your best bet is go with the option of placing something like fruit inside to try and bait it. It's a very good tactic.
 

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You'll never find a dubia without tearing everything apart. I was dumb enough to wait it out and then pick it up + the dubia was 2x the size she got in when i got it out.

Your best bet is go with the option of placing something like fruit inside to try and bait it. It's a very good tactic.
ill give it a try thanks
 

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ill give it a try thanks
Place a small glass jar in the enclosure at a very slight angle. Place some banana and fish flake in the far end of the jar.
That should bring the roach out of hiding, and with the jar angled it should be unable to climb out.
 

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Place a small glass jar in the enclosure at a very slight angle. Place some banana and fish flake in the far end of the jar.
That should bring the roach out of hiding, and with the jar angled it should be unable to climb out.
the enclosure isnt big enough for that its a tiny 1-2 cm sling in a box
 

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a dubia I thought I had pre killed was actually alive and has buried itself under a piece of cork bark my T is in premolt so i don't think my T is going to eat it worried about the roach eating the t during molting
That whole roach eating T thing is highly overstated. I've left roaches in for multiple T molts. It's often not worth it to try to fish feeders out, especially with a venomous T. The roach would have to find the T for one thing. That, in itself, could present a big challenge.
 

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That whole roach eating T thing is highly overstated. I've left roaches in for multiple T molts. It's often not worth it to try to fish feeders out, especially with a venomous T. The roach would have to find the T for one thing. That, in itself, could present a big challenge.
its only a 2.5 ich square tub the sling is tiny like 1-2cm the roach is smaller then a cm though so im not sure
 
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