Her 1st mouse :-))))

[fangsalot]

u guys are killin me. cocroaches hey

what about the florida residents who cant get roaches..are we not allowed to be in the T hobby??:evil: we hate crickets as much as you non floridians do

 

[Falk]

Calcium is not the problem but mice contains to much fat, wrong nutritions and wrong proteins.
Dont feed with mice just because a bunch of youtube idiots does the same.

Good luck.

 

[spiderworld]

Calcium is not the problem but mice contains to much fat, wrong nutritions and wrong proteins.
Dont feed with mice just because a bunch of youtube idiots does the same.

Good luck.

Yup! but for whatever reason any of you do it(silly)
But please rather use a pinky(new born mouse or rat)
instead of a kicking, bitting subadult! not only are you risking
your spiders helth with wrong proteins & fats & wrong nutritions.
You might loose your t alltogether in a mouse t struggle!

But to avoid any prob, DONT FEED THEM MICE AT ALL!

 

[BlackCat]

I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure another one of the problems with feeding mice to T's the iron content in the blood. Where mammals have iron, inverts have copper, correct? I guess that would fall under what Falk said as far as the wrong nutrients though.

To me it seems like the only reason to feed a mouse to a tarantula is for some form of sick entertainment.. like watching 'Saw' movies, practically just gore and torture porn IMO.
The tarantula clearly gets no nutritional benefit from it.

 

[Musicwolf]

Not addressed to anyone in particular since the OP has already changed, but I don't have any ethical problems with feeding mice to T's. Ethically it's the same to me as feeding mice to snakes. As a side note, my daughter keeps telling me that she feels sorry for the crickets I give to my T's. She'd HATE me if she ever saw me feed a mouse to something.

However, the dangers of feeding mice to T's is FAR greater than it is to snakes, and certainly not needed (which it arguably is for snakes). Nutritionally I've never looked into it, but it seems like that is a big strike against it for T's as well.

So, o.k. - - cool pictures anyway, but I would have kept them for myself instead of posting them publicly. Still, what's done is done, your gorgeous little T should be fine.

 

[Blayde]

mmm. So I fed my Male T. Sp "burgundy" a rat pup, and he molted a month later, no problems. Actually, after he ate the rat pup, he got a massive burst of energy and proceeded to excavate his ENTIRE enclosure, to build a burrow to molt in.

I think you guys are over reacting, and seem to forget that a T will grab whatever it can in wild, be it a mouse, or a cockroach, or a lizard. You seem to forget the name "BIRDEATER" is there for a reason. T's will eat anything they can catch. I head a lot of people feed green and brown Anoles to them to.

 

[spiderworld]

mmm. So I fed my Male T. Sp "burgundy" a rat pup, and he molted a month later, no problems. Actually, after he ate the rat pup, he got a massive burst of energy and proceeded to excavate his ENTIRE enclosure, to build a burrow to molt in.

I think you guys are over reacting, and seem to forget that a T will grab whatever it can in wild, be it a mouse, or a cockroach, or a lizard. You seem to forget the name "BIRDEATER" is there for a reason. T's will eat anything they can catch. I head a lot of people feed green and brown Anoles to them to.

We not saying that they cant eat it!! We just know that there are other foods that are better for them!

you can eat a mouse aswell, would you like it for dinner?

No! there are better foods avail for us, so we dont eat mice!

 

[Blayde]

Well everyone on here seems to be saying that they have the wrong nutrients for the T's. How do you guys know this? If there isn't even so far a definite link between eating rodents and molt problems, who are you guys to try to tell him its wrong, and people who do it are idiots?

Also, if your not being stupid about it, you shouldn't have a problem. The rat I gave my T. sp was only a pup. He got it no problem, barely any struggle, and killed it within 30 seconds.

In my opinion, and in the opinions of people I listen to now, rodents aren't bad for T's unless you decide to make that their staple diet. Like most other exotic food items (horn worms and the likes) are meant more for treats, and not staple food. Like something they might get once a yr, or less, but still a big treat for them.

We not saying that they cant eat it!! We just know that there are other foods that are better for them!

you can eat a mouse aswell, would you like it for dinner?

No! there are better foods avail for us, so we dont eat mice!

Dude, now your being childish. That isn't even a valid argument. Lets try this instead. Cake Cake has a lot of stuff we dont need, like too much sugar, and all kinds of additives. Yet, we still eat it. How about red meat, or fast food of any type. There is plenty of better food for us to be eating, like a nice pork chop, baked potato, with some steamed veggies, and we would still eat the cake after that.

Do you get what I am saying? Eat too much cake, you get fat. You feed you T too many high nutrient prey items, they have complications.

Give your opinion, dont pass judgement. If you think its repulsive, dont read it, dont even look. The thread was clearly labeled what it was about, and you guys all still came in and started telling him how wrong and gross it is, and how so many people are grossed out. Well then dont do it, dont look, and we dont want to hear what you have to say about it then.

 

[NikiP]

Well everyone on here seems to be saying that they have the wrong nutrients for the T's. How do you guys know this? If there isn't even so far a definite link between eating rodents and molt problems, who are you guys to try to tell him its wrong, and people who do it are idiots?

Also, if your not being stupid about it, you shouldn't have a problem. The rat I gave my T. sp was only a pup. He got it no problem, barely any struggle, and killed it within 30 seconds.

In my opinion, and in the opinions of people I listen to now, rodents aren't bad for T's unless you decide to make that their staple diet. Like most other exotic food items (horn worms and the likes) are meant more for treats, and not staple food. Like something they might get once a yr, or less, but still a big treat for them.

Cake isn't good for us, but we eat it anyway, once in while, because its a TREAT. Or how about alcohol, or red meat, etc...

Tarantulas probably also have much shorter lifespan on occasion in the wild due to dinner going wrong

 

[Blayde]

In the wild they dont get a choice of a smaller rat. I made sure the rat pup I had was small and still defenseless enough that my T could take it easily. He had absolutely no problem.

Hey nikip, what causes high cholesterol? YOUR DIET. We can die because of what we eat to. If we didnt have weapons, you think we would be surviving so well? Without it, we would be competing at best, let alone surviving. Do you think we would just have food? Without technology, we would have a shorter lifespan to. Are there tarantula rifles? They have the weapons nature gave them, We have what we made. They make due as best they can in the wild, but in our care we can try to make sure they will be survive without issues.

 

[spiderworld]

Well everyone on here seems to be saying that they have the wrong nutrients for the T's. How do you guys know this? If there isn't even so far a definite link between eating rodents and molt problems, who are you guys to try to tell him its wrong, and people who do it are idiots?

Also, if your not being stupid about it, you shouldn't have a problem. The rat I gave my T. sp was only a pup. He got it no problem, barely any struggle, and killed it within 30 seconds.

In my opinion, and in the opinions of people I listen to now, rodents aren't bad for T's unless you decide to make that their staple diet. Like most other exotic food items (horn worms and the likes) are meant more for treats, and not staple food. Like something they might get once a yr, or less, but still a big treat for them.



Dude, now your being childish. That isn't even a valid argument. Lets try this instead. Cake Cake has a lot of stuff we dont need, like too much sugar, and all kinds of additives. Yet, we still eat it. How about red meat, or fast food of any type. There is plenty of better food for us to be eating, like a nice pork chop, baked potato, with some steamed veggies, and we would still eat the cake after that.

Do you get what I am saying? Eat too much cake, you get fat. You feed you T too many high nutrient prey items, they have complications.

Give your opinion, dont pass judgement. If you think its repulsive, dont read it, dont even look. The thread was clearly labeled what it was about, and you guys all still came in and started telling him how wrong and gross it is, and how so many people are grossed out. Well then dont do it, dont look, and we dont want to hear what you have to say about it then.

I know very well i could have compared it like that! but the whole you
eating a mouse gets my point across just great & its funny! lighten up!
& no judgement was passed, very helpfull info was given,yes it got
alittle argumentitive, but nobody was rude or judging anyone! your argument
isnt a good one period! Please why feed something to your t thats not good
for them?? When there are plenty things that are good for them!!! thats that

 

[Blayde]

As I said, who the heck are you to decide its bad for the T?

And my argument is that if someone wants to feed their T a rat or mouse, they can go right ahead. Its up to them to make sure that their T doesn't get hurt, and that the rat is a proportionate size compared to the T. You guys have no right saying whats "right" and "wrong" because its only your opinions and info. Are you guys doing the research? Do you have Definitive proof that feeding rodents to T's is bad for them? Other than you guys, I have never heard or had an issue with it. Other T collectors I know do the same.

 

[spiderworld]

As I said, who the heck are you to decide its bad for the T?

LOL! go play!

 

[Blayde]

My argument was simply to say if someone wants to feed their T a rodent, let them. If you have a problem with it, suck it up.

At the same time I am not telling people to just go out and feed their T's rats and such. It should just be done with caution, and not often. Like I said, not a staple food, a treat.

 

[spiderworld]

My argument was simply to say if someone wants to feed their T a rodent, let them. If you have a problem with it, suck it up.

At the same time I am not telling people to just go out and feed their T's rats and such. It should just be done with caution, and not often. Like I said, not a staple food, a treat.

Ok! great! thats your view and thats fine! we not telling people what to do
we are just suggesting whats better for the T!
and my take on it is, why do it at all!?

Sweet!

 

[Blayde]

Some of you sound like it... And again. How the heck do you know whats better for the T?
Answer me that, and I will stop questioning, but I am really getting sick of hearing "whats better for the T" when really, how do you really know all this?

And What if giving them a rat once in a while IS actually good for them. Only thing I noticed when I gave my T a rat pup was he got really energetic, and did a bunch of excavating in his tank, then proceeded to molt for me. That sounds pretty good to me.

 

[Skullptor]

Buy a small roach colony and your T will be happy.

 

[Blayde]

Ive got a roach colony, as well as Crickets. The only T I gave a rat pup to was my T. sp "burgundy". Its the only one I am comfortable with giving a rat pup to.

And for the record, most people do it to see it, to watch the actual event of a Tarantula hunting and capturing a mammal or other vertebrate. Its very exciting to watch if you can stomach it, and me being very open minded and having a rather tough stomach, I enjoyed it. I am very interested in nature, every aspect of it. I also cleaned the mess up the very next morning, and Rehoused the T and cleaned the Tank within the week, for sanitary reasons obviously. I am not saying I enjoy hurting animals, and by no means did the rat suffer (the bite was right at the base of its neck and skull, stopped moving within seconds), I just found it fascinating to watch, and it was interesting to see how the T handles a larger prey item.

 

[Fran]

Some of you sound like it... And again. How the heck do you know whats better for the T?
Answer me that, and I will stop questioning, but I am really getting sick of hearing "whats better for the T" when really, how do you really know all this?

And What if giving them a rat once in a while IS actually good for them. Only thing I noticed when I gave my T a rat pup was he got really energetic, and did a bunch of excavating in his tank, then proceeded to molt for me. That sounds pretty good to me.

Very simple.

It is Quite a non sense to feed mice to an animal who will be FED perfectly fine with insects.
Not only is UNNECESSARY but is a RISK of injury or possible death for your tarantula.SPECIALLY for genera like Brachypelma.

To compare captivity with wild conditions is also a non sense, since the point is to keep them alive and healthy, not to expose them to the risks of the wild.

Unnecesary

 

[Fran]

I am not saying I enjoy hurting animals, and by no means did the rat suffer (the bite was right at the base of its neck and skull, stopped moving within seconds), I just found it fascinating to watch, and it was interesting to see how the T handles a larger prey item.

quoting your words...
How the hell do you know the rat didnt suffer
?
Did she give you the thumbs up as the tarantula sank the fangs ?