Hadrurus Arizonensis communal?

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Hello! I'm new here, well new as in posting but I've been reading a lot from this forum thanks to Google.
I'm a noob when it comes to the hobby, I tried my best to educate myself before asking questions but when it comes to the desert hairy socialism I found mixed opinions. Most saying they're are not a social species but some say they are. I live in Arizona so I went out and find me 3 a few nights ago. I have a 10 gallon tank so I made up a quick setup and put them in there. Now before I tell you the results of this I want to say that I know 10 gallons is small for 3 scorpions of this species and also I have some excavator clay on the way and some play sand. I plan on getting a bigger tank where I can make a nicer setup with enough substrate for them to burrow on.
Now to my experience so far, the first night after I put them on the tank one hid under a rock right away another dig a little bit under another hide and one was just trying to climb out of the tank. Later he decided to wander around and clash with the smaller of the 3 the one that hid under the rock they almost got into a fight and kind of measure each other tails the little one stood his ground and the big one walk away from the confrontation. He then proceeded to the other hide and met with the other scorpion. Here they both started doing like a little dance looked like they were doing push ups while holding each other then one walk away I feed them each one got a cricket and I left them to be when I came back the 2 that did the little dance are now in the same hide right next to each other in peace. It's been about 3 days and they still go to sleep together and the other one stays away in his rock. So what do you guys think of this sounds communal or it's to early to tell and I should separate them? I'll post some pictures later
 

ArachnoDrew

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@Scorpionluva and others keep an adult pair together in a spacious tank. I wouldnt house anymore than that... sounds like their might be 2 males and 1 female in there. The males fought and the bigger male found and claimed the female possibly. A few others will be able to give better insight
 

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@Scorpionluva and others keep an adult pair together in a spacious tank. I wouldnt house anymore than that... sounds like their might be 2 males and 1 female in there. The males fought and the bigger male found and claimed the female possibly. A few others will be able to give better insight
Ok that makes a lot of sense judging by their actions. I don't know much about sexing I know the best way is to count the "pedipals" correct me if i wrote that wrong. But i also read that if the pedipals touch is male and if there's a gap is female and if that's correct you might be right on the 2 males 1 female. I'll be removing the smaller male from the other two he seems to be really defensive and aggresive. I don't want them to kill each other. And I'll monitor the other two
 

ArachnoDrew

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Haha yea "pectines" when adults and well fed the female will be much bigger than the male is most cases. Post some good clear pictures on here amd their are a lot of people who can ID

Tip - when you uplaod a pic, click the "Full image " option not the thumbnail. Makes much better pictures
 

Scorpionluva

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Ive actually kept 5 desert hairies together in a 20 gal before and had no issues except a few stand offs between the 2 males in tank. Even when they hooked up and raised their tails at each other - it was more of a arm wrestling match or a game of mercy from what i saw. Watching a communal tank of hairies is as good as it gets with scorpions !!!!
 

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Haha yea "pectines" when adults and well fed the female will be much bigger than the male is most cases. Post some good clear pictures on here amd their are a lot of people who can ID



Tip - when you uplaod a pic, click the "Full image " option not the thumbnail. Makes much better pictures
Ok thanks I'll keep that in mind. I'll try to get some good pictures tonight when they come out of their hides.
 

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Ive actually kept 5 desert hairies together in a 20 gal before and had no issues except a few stand offs between the 2 males in tank. Even when they hooked up and raised their tails at each other - it was more of a arm wrestling match or a game of mercy from what i saw. Watching a communal tank of hairies is as good as it gets with scorpions !!!!
That's good to hear. Thats sounds like the two of mine did just kind of wrestle a little and put tails together like measuring strenght till one walk away and the other one claimed that hide. The loser got the girl so I wouldn't call him a loser after all lol. But you had 5 and 2 males if I have 2 males and 1 female it might be troublesome. But I agree, I don't have experience with other species but hairies are fun to watch they're very active when suns down. Different personalities for sure one is shy, one is curious and is always wandering about. And the other one is stuck on defense mode what a angry little fella.
 

RTTB

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I'm hearing a lot of successes with communal keeping of them so perhaps I'll rethink my cautious stance.
 
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