H. minax help

[dabid1337]

Hey guys, i recently purchased an H. minax from a local herp shop as part of a trade i received a few other spiders and scops and such...
they all seem to be doing fine but the minax seems to be spending a lot of time out of her/his burrow im not sure if this is normal as this is my first
Haplopelma... but from what i understand they dont come out much
idk if its looking for food at the top of the burrow, if it needs to be rehoused because it wants a new burrow....

 

[advan]

Looks like a healthy Haplopelma vonwirthi.

 

[dabid1337]

you know i was starting to think she was not a .minax the more i see her/him but she was labeled minax so i went with it
do vonwirthi spend much more time out of the burrow then h.minax? like i said iv never had haplopelma before....i do know that they generally stay IN their burrows

 

[Arachnomaniac19]

Individuals vary. That's pretty much all I can say.

 

[Poec54]

Looks like a healthy Haplopelma vonwirthi.

+1. They're coming in as w/c adults and affordably priced.

 

[Chris LXXIX]

Don't worry. If they have lots of inches of rightly moist substrate (which i'm sure you gave her) water dish, and a cork bark for dig under (this is mine set up for "Haplos") they are fine and enjoy a "walk" outside here and there.

 

[dabid1337]

shes been in this enclosure for a few months id say...she was at a local shop i frequent...she has roughly 4.5-5'' of substrate and has a nice burrow with a fairly large chamber at the bottom
she(hah i keep calling it a female but dont know yet weather its M/F) seems to be happy and healthy and in the short time iv had her has alrdy ate for me
i just think its odd for a haplopelma to be out walking about....
but hey like you guys said maybe thats her/his personality maybe its a bit on the adventurous side as far as Haplo's go
thanks-

 

[Chris LXXIX]

shes been in this enclosure for a few months id say...she was at a local shop i frequent...she has roughly 4.5-5'' of substrate and has a nice burrow with a fairly large chamber at the bottom
she(hah i keep calling it a female but dont know yet weather its M/F) seems to be happy and healthy and in the short time iv had her has alrdy ate for me
i just think its odd for a haplopelma to be out walking about....
but hey like you guys said maybe thats her/his personality maybe its a bit on the adventurous side as far as Haplo's go
thanks-

Don't want to sound annoying, but 5 inches of substrate are not ok. IMO it's best to give obligate burrowers always 12/15 inches of substrate.

 

[Poec54]

Don't want to sound annoying, but 5 inches of substrate are not ok. IMO it's best to give obligate burrowers always 12/15 inches of substrate.

I disagree. I give my burrowers about 5" of substrate and they dig tunnels and chambers in the cage. The important thing is that they have tunnels to live in, not whether they're vertical or horizontal.

 

[dementedlullaby]

12-15" of substrate is serious overkill. A foot of substrate? Really?

 

[Poec54]

12-15" of substrate is serious overkill. A foot of substrate? Really?

That requires some tall cages, and they'd weigh a lot, because you need moist substrate with most terrestrials. I don't want cages that weigh 30 or 40 lbs.

 

[KcFerry]

I agree that you have a Haplopelma vonwirthi there.
I have an H. minax that will occasionally hang out on top...(especially prior to molting)...but sometimes for no apparent reason.
Beautiful spider ya got there!
No worries

 

[Chris LXXIX]

That requires some tall cages, and they'd weigh a lot, because you need moist substrate with most terrestrials. I don't want cages that weigh 30 or 40 lbs.

My enclosure for obligate burrowers ("Haplos" when i had, back then, Chilobrachys sp and African Baboons obligate burrowers like Pelinobius muticus) are 45 - 50 cm (height) so not so much IMO. I agree they weigh a lot, ah ah, you can do workout with those, but apart for that, there's really no problems for the T's. They are happy, always busy building under.. btw let me say i do this only with adults, not slings, obviously.

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12-15" of substrate is serious overkill. A foot of substrate? Really?

Yeah, really. But 8 - 10 inches are ok as well for some sp. I do know that others don't use that much of a substrate, but those obligate burrowers (adults i mean) T's have really no problem with that.
Important thing is that their care (example: moist if they need moist substrate etc) is respected.

 

[Storm76]

Yeah, really. But 8 - 10 inches are ok as well for some sp. I do know that others don't use that much of a substrate, but those obligate burrowers (adults i mean) T's have really no problem with that.
Important thing is that their care (example: moist if they need moist substrate etc) is respected.

Both my C. fimbriatus are in enclosures with 5-7" substrate and they're doing just fine, burrowing, constructing tunnels with chambers and occasionally trying to scare their keeper...like you said: The important thing here is to keep them correctly with damp sub so they feel comfy

 

[dementedlullaby]

Yeah, really. But 8 - 10 inches are ok as well for some sp. I do know that others don't use that much of a substrate, but those obligate burrowers (adults i mean) T's have really no problem with that.
Important thing is that their care (example: moist if they need moist substrate etc) is respected.

Haha sorry, re-read my post and sounds a bit rude. I thought you might of meant cm instead or something. That's a lot of sub!

 

[advan]

12-15" of substrate is serious overkill. A foot of substrate? Really?

It is not overkill at all.

 

[El Consciente]

12-15" of substrate is serious overkill. A foot of substrate? Really?

That's probably commensurate with the size of the tarantula.

For example I give my 1" P. muticus about 5-6" of sub. Giving it 12" at this stage is a bit superfluous, but it may not be once it hits adulthood given the size of the T.

 

[Chris LXXIX]

Haha sorry, re-read my post and sounds a bit rude. I thought you might of meant cm instead or something. That's a lot of sub!

Not rude at all. I offer to all my obligate (giant, such Africans) burrowers at least a minimum of 12 inches of substrate. For Ephebopus murinus, Chilobrachys etc always at least 9/10 (again, inches).

Now i'm talking about what i do for my adults, and adults only T's, and their "final" enclosures.

Usually 5 inches are what i offer to NW like Acanthoscurria sp, Nhandu sp etc you never know if a T wants/feel the need to "burrow or dig, after all.

Example: An adult female Pelinobius muticus or AF Hysterocrates gigas in only 5 inches of substrate? Don't want to start a "war", but for me is unacceptable.

Listen to this: my AF Megaphobema robustum.. well, i received her for free from a man of a neighbour region who bought, with no experience at all, 3 T's.

She was housed in 5/6 inches of incredibly wet coco fiber in one of those glass, ridicolous poor ventilated (no more than 10 little holes) enclosures. No hide, nothing.

Well, put her in no time in a large "Dragon" fauna box, cross ventilated, with 12 inches of rightly moist coco fiber, and a arc shaped, good old cork bark.

Took almost 3 weeks, but then she started to dig, and dig, and dig again, making her home under the cork, making that sweet munching noise.

An unhappy T, turned happy. There's no reasons for me for not offer a piece of cork bark, fake leaves, water dish, and good inches of substrate to T's.

 

[dementedlullaby]

That's pretty interesting. I'm not as big on obligate burrowers (don't own any) but I do want an Ephebopus at some point. Thanks for sharing.

 

[Chris LXXIX]

That's pretty interesting. I'm not as big on obligate burrowers (don't own any) but I do want an Ephebopus at some point. Thanks for sharing.

Great choice, Ephebopus sp. are amazing and mine enjoy to stay at the open at night. Too bad that they don't have "size".