Gravid H. arizonensis

[Chrome69]

Went to a random mom and pop pet shop and they had a desert hairy for sale which is really really rare around these parts (middle of alberta was where I was at the time) and picked up the rock to get a look and BAM a gravid H. arizonensis so I had to snatch it up to try my hand at birthing them. I could see it's skin shift with the embryos so it's very very near so I got it into a dual sided temporary cool,humid/hot,dry tank and i'm hoping for the best.

Bulb box is the hide for the desert side, didnt have anything offhand and i'm out in the boonies. Other side is humid and cool with a big water dish, will be xferring it as soon as I can get a more suitable enclosure skeleton. Made 1 makeshift burrow hide on each side of the dual temp enclosure, cool side also has a semi false bottom using a plastic donut container to keep the moisture away from the dry hot sand.

Heat bulb is pointed away from the cool side enough to pretty much only hit the dry sand side.

 

[AzJohn]

They need it warm almost hot to carry the babies full term. THe temps will be in the 90s this week in the scorpions home range. I know that mignt not help to much as I imagine yout keeping them warm all ready. I had a few when I first started keeping abort the babies prior to full term. The only reason I can figure was that I had the temps in the mid 70s. Later attempts at higher temperature were much more sucsessful.

 

[Chrome69]

Yea, on the one side I have it searing hot, around 80-90. I am keeping an eye out though in case of an emergency intervention. Just heard on the vine that they might like a place to go that has humidity and is cooler, hence the dual temps, i'll keep this thread updated as time goes on.

thanks for the input.

 

[william_wang]

Could you send a photo around the tank?
I prepair to keep a gravid H.arizonensis too....
Thank you very much.

 

[Irene B. Smithi]

Hey,
I live where the H. Arizonensis live, right now it's mid 80F for the high, and 70F for the low. they need tobe able to dig a nice burrow...... so I hope you've got more substrate then it looks like. I love my pet hole big eaters lol.... Best of luck on getting them to 3-4i.

 

[AzJohn]

Yea, on the one side I have it searing hot, around 80-90. I am keeping an eye out though in case of an emergency intervention. Just heard on the vine that they might like a place to go that has humidity and is cooler, hence the dual temps, i'll keep this thread updated as time goes on.

thanks for the input.

That's what I would do. They can be a difficult species to maintain properly because of the complexity of there habitat. They live in burrows that have higher Rh and a lower temperature than the surounding above ground environment. PLus wide seasonal variations that might impact their breeding, molt, ect.. If I ever go full blown on trying to breed them I'm going to set them up in an out doors tank with lots of room to dig and a normal climactic cylce. Right now I live in the wrong part of the state to do that. I wouldn't worry about her getting to hot. I've observed them on 100+ degree nights.

Good luck

 

[Chrome69]

Hey,
I live where the H. Arizonensis live, right now it's mid 80F for the high, and 70F for the low. they need tobe able to dig a nice burrow...... so I hope you've got more substrate then it looks like. I love my pet hole big eaters lol.... Best of luck on getting them to 3-4i.

Nope, I dont have the tank for the deep substrate, and I wouldnt want it burrowing atm in case it turns on its young since i do know how to make a good scorpion incubator that i've used before successfully. Cant get a deep enclosure till tomorrow when i go into the city, just made a temporary one just in case.

 

[Purpleorange8]

That's a Hadrurus Palidus. Not an Arizonesis. Don't have it moist... Moisture will kill the Hadrurus species :O Broods are difficult to raise... Only heard of a few success stories. Goodluck though!

 

[scorpionmom]

Good luck! I have heard that they are hard to breed, so we are "backing you up". I bet you're excited.

 

[Chrome69]

That's a Hadrurus Palidus. Not an Arizonesis. Don't have it moist... Moisture will kill the Hadrurus species :O Broods are difficult to raise... Only heard of a few success stories. Goodluck though!

It's not moist, one side of the enclosure is a tad humid and cool while the other is hot and dry.

And if it doesnt pop by tomorrow i'll be switching it to a proper enclosure with digging room.

*edit* and to my knowledge a pallidus is a type of arizonensis.

 

[AzJohn]

That's a Hadrurus Palidus. Not an Arizonesis. Don't have it moist... Moisture will kill the Hadrurus species :O Broods are difficult to raise... Only heard of a few success stories. Goodluck though!

Most of H arizonensis habitat recievs about 12in-20in of rain per year. Some areas get less, some more. Most of the water falls seasonally, so you get a wet period and a dry period. Keeping them wet for long periods of time can and will kill them. So will keeping them completely dry for long periods of time. They also live in deep burrows thet have a higher relative humidty than the outside air. They do need to be watered on occation. I mist once a week or so, and provide a water dish every few weeks. I try to ventalation high so that the tank can dry out between waterings. Palidus is just a color variation of H arizonensis.
Rain map
http://alliance.la.asu.edu/maps/AZ_rain_web.pdf

 

[Chrome69]

And just to clarify this is not a permanent enclosure, just a temporary one until I get to the city tomorrow and get an actual deep tank for burrowing. Don't want it giving birth in a plastic tub.

 

[Purpleorange8]

Most of H arizonensis habitat recievs about 12in-20in of rain per year. Some areas get less, some more. Most of the water falls seasonally, so you get a wet period and a dry period. Keeping them wet for long periods of time can and will kill them. So will keeping them completely dry for long periods of time. They also live in deep burrows thet have a higher relative humidty than the outside air. They do need to be watered on occation. I mist once a week or so, and provide a water dish every few weeks. I try to ventalation high so that the tank can dry out between waterings. Palidus is just a color variation of H arizonensis.
Rain map
http://alliance.la.asu.edu/maps/AZ_rain_web.pdf

Thanks for the info John

 

[Chrome69]

So I went down to the river and grabbed a bunch of dark clay/sand mixture since I sure ain't payin for what is 100metres from my place. Baked about 2 buckets at 400 for 2 hours to kill anything in it, packed it down and it's made a really good burrowing substrate, plus it's dark so nice contrast with the scorp. Here's some pics, input is welcome.

And a random pic of my male P. cavimanus doing his best impression of a zombie.