Gaboon Vipers!! Puff Adders!!

[tattoo_rebel]

So I've been wanting to own hotz for some time now but i will admit krig's right and i really have no experience in venomous at all and that would be very irresponsible and dumb hahha so i'll just wait until he gets his license and he gets a gaboon so i can visit. and yes bro i don't expect you to trust e again that quick but hey i'm happy you're giving me a chance to show you how much your friendship is worth to me bro!! So people this is some eye candy for my homie Ulrik and for those of ya that love hotzzz!! Check out these cool vids I found on the net!!

Mods I tried using the you tube icon when doing the thread but don't know what happened, sorry

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_2bMBuZgts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vciqMuDcs4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGQymtHaz9c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noQkkXC_HQw

So my only comments on these guy the viper keeper, is that his vids are cool but he talks waaayyy too much and bores me he talks to his hots like if he were talking with a virgin or something like that hahahaha And tha last vid is just funny

 

[Crotalus]

After see that puffadder video its no wonder people get tagged...

 

[Gigas]

All members of the bitis genus are gymnasts, its not fat but pure muscle making up their girth

 

[ShadowBlade]

All members of the bitis genus are gymnasts, its not fat but pure muscle making up their girth

Yeah, pure muscle that says 'freaking bite you'.

 

[Midnightrdr456]

even if you do start getting hots i would recommend starting small, like a copperhead. Or even better is a nice hognose you could get now while you learn with your friend.

 

[Kriegan]

he talks to his hots like if he were talking with a virgin or something like that hahahaha

LMAO!!

Thanks for this good stuff mate, this has made my day!!
I'm completely speechless:drool: That female gaboon ist GORGEOUS!! You can get to hear the beautiful hissing in the background, even with this guy talking so much. Heck! I wouldn't talk while opening my hot's enclosures! Mine was still a baby and never had the chance to get that big

But this guy is just a disaster waiting to happen WOW!! That 3rd video with the bitis arietans in the floor loose like that, and so close to him struggling...that just made my heart stop!! For all of you who are considering owning venomous snakes, please take note, this is why you need to have lots of years experience, and you need to know when to use a hook, and when you need to use a tong to restrain it!! You have to be 100% certain of what you're doing. This is very basic, THIS FOOLISH MISTAKE CAN NEVER HAPPEN, you can't afford to be stupid! YOU CAN NEVER EVER GET TOO CONFIDENT when owning hots, always very alert and cautious, never take ANY risks. He could've get tagged so easily...good grief! I could just picture it coming next! Also, I would never even "allow" my gaboon to take a "stroll", that's just very dumb and looking for serious trouble. Gaboons can change mood VERY fast, even if well fed, so NEVER be an idiot and think gabonicas are placid and you can take them out to play!!:evil:

However, I did enjoy when the gabonica showed her impressive fangs in the 2nd video!! LOL!! I had to wait until the 6th minute for that, but it was well worth the wait!! WOW!! BEAUTIFUL!!:worship:

The last video was just very silly IMO, the flake who fed the cornsnake a live baby rat, should've just spared the poor snake all that struggle by feeding it a pre-killed one. That was very unnecesary, if you ask me

Best regards,
Ulrich

 

[Crotalus]

All members of the bitis genus are gymnasts, its not fat but pure muscle making up their girth

Gymnasts... no more like wrestlers. They are not the most agile snakes

 

[Crotalus]

The puff on the floor is not so bad (they are not a mamba) - its when he try lift it out with too small hooks when its gets dangerous
Its very easy to avoid all that fuzz - place a high plastic barrel outside the terrarium, let the puff slide down and on with the lid.
Incredible.

 

[Kriegan]

The puff on the floor is not so bad (they are not a mamba) - its when he try lift it out with too small hooks when its gets dangerous
Its very easy to avoid all that fuzz - place a high plastic barrel outside the terrarium, let the puff slide down and on with the lid.
Incredible.

:clap: Exactly!! It escapes me how come this idiot gets to own venomous snakes when he has no idea of what he's doing and how to safely rehouse them, and yet he proudly films his stupidness and exposes himself on the internet!

 

[Arietans]

Puff Adders are actually awesome as first hots. They eat well, are very tolerant to husbandry mistakes (temps, humidity etc.), hook easily (although large ones require two hooks or the more dangerous hook-and-tail).


Copperheads are better, but due to availability here, few people get to start with them.

 

[Midnightrdr456]

yea copperheads for him would be easy to get in Georgia. Plus if you do make a mistake.........**knock on wood**, i would much prefer to make that mistake with a snake that rarely kills with its venom.

But thats also why i say a snake such as a Hognose or False Water Cobra are even better to begin, they are aggressive so they can teach you how to be careful with out the danger of front fanged potentially deadly snakes.

 

[Arietans]

Oh most definitely. Falsies, Copperheads are all better beginners. But we are limited to availability and the price tag.

 

[Kriegan]

Yeah I agree too, copperheads would be a good start. But before he takes that big step, John first you need to be ready to assume the responsability of owning them, and provide it with an escape proof enclosure, which is not cheap at all, and invest in maintenance tools and supplies. Second, you need to acknowledge that a responsible venomous snake keeper, NEVER handles a hot without the proper training and equipment, and respects it for what it is. So definetely you have to get rid of the naive "yeah, hots are cool, and i wanted to take some pics of it in my hand, and out of the blue i got fanged":wall: So you need to have very good judgement and plan everything out ahead of time, when there is a clear unavoidable need for maneuvering a situation in dealing with a snake outside of its enclosure like in the vids. You can not afford to be careless or get overly confident, because it takes but one simple mistake to wind up fanged by a hot snake, resulting in a fatal permanent injury... you have to be extremely careful.

If he really gets serious and responsible about this, and is willing to show matureness and not a wreckless attitude, then i will support him into getting one. For now, I'm just concerned that he might think hot keeping is a breeze, and anyone can get into it without knowing anything about them. I'd be 100%sure he knows what he's getting himself into, and can prepare himself for when the unexpected comes...just like when he was taking care of my sling and he just decided to ignore any instructions on how to care for it, and ended up very irresponsibly doing whatever he wanted, and ended up chasing it and ripping its leg off.


John if you show me with your actions, that you're ready and responsible enough for this, then i'll teach you everything you need to know when keeping venomous snakes.

 

[Arietans]

Just finished watching the vids.
Awesome snakes.

Only a little critique (no ill intentions):

The first video is a perfect example of what your hot room should NOT look like. It is very cluttered, making it very difficult to catch a snake that wants to get away.

The second vid (I think) is a perfect example of how NOT to get a puffy out of a cage. He has two hooksticks, almost criss-crossed trying to manipulate an animal that is on the move. There are much easier and better ways of removing the animal.

 

[Kriegan]

Just finished watching the vids.
Awesome snakes.

Only a little critique (no ill intentions):

The first video is a perfect example of what your hot room should NOT look like. It is very cluttered, making it very difficult to catch a snake that wants to get away.

The second vid (I think) is a perfect example of how NOT to get a puffy out of a cage. He has two hooksticks, almost criss-crossed trying to manipulate an animal that is on the move. There are much easier and better ways of removing the animal.

:clap: LOL!!! What's even more ridiculous to me, is that in his profile he claims he's "An avid venomous snake keeper since I was 17. I have a collection of about 50 animals from around the world. These are videos of those animals in action doing their thing, which is being a predator and very dangerous", so you would definetely expect a veteran keeper to know a lot better than that.

This is his profile page:http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=viperkeeper

 

[Arietans]

While not as forward as Kriegan (no offence boss ), I have the same sentiments. Those are bad examples of how to keep venomous reptiles. He may have a lot of experience, but people watching don't.

 

[Kriegan]

While not as forward as Kriegan (no offence boss ), I have the same sentiments. Those are bad examples of how to keep venomous reptiles. He may have a lot of experience, but people watching don't.

None taken mate! I must admit i'm an obsessive perfectionist:wall:

 

[Arietans]

None taken mate! I must admit i'm an obsessive perfectionist

You say it like its a bad thing LOL

 

[Kriegan]

You say it like its a bad thing LOL

When you're as demanding as i am, it can be very frustrating and dissapointing sometimes.

 

[Crotalus]

If he really gets serious and responsible about this, and is willing to show matureness and not a wreckless attitude, then i will support him into getting one.

Have he owned any snakes before I wonder? If not he should get a cornsnake and stop be encouraged to get hots.