flea spray

Cecilia

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A couple hours ago I sprayed flea spray around the room my ts are in. I didn't realize my mistake until just a few minutes ago and so I currently have a fan on and window open trying to air out the room. I feel horrible, I'm new to keeping but I should've known better. This is the only room they can be in (temperature wise and cat wise as the cats cant reach them in this room) is there anything else I can do...
 

Marcostaco

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That's.... keep an eye out. Strong chance that you've just wiped out every tarantula in that room.
 

Tarantuland

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If you got an air purifier I’d run it on max but aside from keeping an eye out idk what you can do. Maybe someone who knows about poisons and will be able to explain specifically based off the chemical components of the product you used. It’s not good that you did that, I’m not gonna sugarcoat it. Good luck
 

ladyratri

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This is the only room they can be in (temperature wise and cat wise as the cats cant reach them in this room) is there anything else I can do...
Unless the rest of your living space is like, below 55F, the temperature is probably less of a concern than the pesticide..... Can you put them in a closet or bathroom with the door shut even for a couple hours? Or potentially confine the cats for a few hours? I have 2 cats myself and this is one of the cases where I'd be ok putting them in a room with the door shut for a day... 🤞🤞
 

Cecilia

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Thank you guys for the suggestions I did take them out of the room so I'm just monitoring atm, hoping for the best. So far they are not acting unusual. I didnt spray alot but I shouldn't have sprayed any at all 😣
 

HooahArmy

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The conch has been blown and I have been summoned!

Flea sprays, in general, are not that much different than other insecticidal sprays, apart from their method of working. There are only two types that I prefer to class them in: Kills the fleas, chases away the fleas. I will write in detail, since I'm sure that other folks may also have this issue.

If your spray contains ingredients like pine oil, citronella, orange oil, or other natural aromatic oils, it's the chase-away type that messes with the senses of the flea, making it harder for him or her to find their intended targets. Wandering lost, the fleas leave the area with the oils to find a place where they can 'smell' again.
The second type that aims to kill fleas, works primarily though contact. Fleas are small, so you're in luck for T survival unless you have a micro-sling, and even then, bodily contact is often required. Flea-killing insecticides also work in two ways, depending on the type you have. The first is the 'clogger' type, covering and smothering the body pores on the fleas, and suffocating them in place. The second is more of a poisonous agent and can work by either disrupting the nervous system of the flea, or by interrupting their abilities to metabolize or digest. This latter is the scary one and can be more hazardous to a T, yet once again, bodily contact is often required, not respiration on its own.
Good job on removing the Ts from the room to let the toxins clear out. Keeping an eye on the Ts will also indicate their levels of exposure. If your flea spray was the poisonous agent type, symptoms of exposure may include imbalance or jerky movements. If the spray was the 'clogger' type and your Ts were somehow accidentally exposed, you may see them excessively grooming, kicking hairs, or rubbing themselves on items in their enclosure. These symptoms I have observed in other insects that have been exposed to low levels of various toxins during research.

However, there is hope! Humans develop their insecticides for safety in addition to potency! Insecticide developers tend to aim for only slightly above the lethal dose for the targeted creature, all the better for the safety of you and your pets. Fleas have small bodies and generally lower tolerances to toxins than hardier species such as roaches and ants. Spiders are also quite hardy, since they breathe through book lungs and lack the body 'pores' (spiracles) that most other insects use to respire. This fact will keep your Ts much safer, while their sheer mass alone will make them less susceptible to the lethal dose concentration within the flea spray used to kill the fleas. Odds are, with your Ts away from the room, and with their size, they will either exhibit no symptoms or will recover from any in no time.

Sources:
Me, toxin and poison specialist.
My neighbor, works for OC Total Pest Control
 

IntermittentSygnal

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Thank you, @HooahArmy. I was just trying to determine if the fumes from the spot treatment for my cat would bother my T's if she were in the same room, as its a bit potent the first couple of days. (My cat is 17 and well trained. Although she will get on the couch, she will not go beyond that to where they are. Although honestly, I don't think she can even see them)
 

The Snark

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@HooahArmy @Cecilia The label needs to be checked for permethrins which leave a neurotoxin in the environment.

To give some idea how common permethrin is in parasite abatement. Environmental persistence varies depending upon adjunct additives.
Abridged international DB of topical parasite treatment products with Permethrin as the active ingredient. Non inclusive
1 Alpermy Lotion
2 Clearkin
3 D A T
4 Elice
5 Gzlthrin
6 Jolice
7 Lyscab
8 Medilice
9 Mityscab
10 Monoscab
11 Monoscab CRM
12 Monoscab Soap
13 Nedax
14 Nolice
15 Nomite
16 Nomite (30 gm)
17 Noscab
18 Noscab Soap
19 Parmath
20 Paxib
21 Pedicor
22 Pedilice
23 Pedimite
24 Pedimite
25 Peloscab
26 Peloscab Crm
27 Perclin
28 Perin
29 Perin Psycoremedies Cream
30 Perin Psycoremedies Lotion
31 Perin (50 mg) Novasearch Dermocare
32 Perin 1% Psyco Remedies Cream
33 Perin 5% Psyco Remedies Cream
34 Perlice Galderma
35 Perlice Galderma C
36 Perlut
37 Perlut (60 ml)
38 Permarid
39 Permarid Crm
40 Permelice C
41 Permelice L
42 Permicer
43 Permiriv
44 Permiriv Lotion
45 Permiskin BCH Lotion
46 Permiskin IMS Cream
47 Permiskin IMS Lotion
48 Permiskin IMS Soap
49 Permiskin (75 gm)
50 Permiskin Cream
51 Permisol
52 Permite ?
53 Permite
54 Permizo ZP
55 Permizo IMS
56 Persure
57 Pertel
58 Pertel IP
59 Pertop
60 Sbsol
61 Scabenil PIL
62 Scabenil UL Ltd.
63 Scaberase
64 Scaberin
65 Scabex P
66 Scabicide
67 Scabion Medicated
68 Scabon P
69 Scaboz
70 Scaboz (30 gm)
71 Scabper
72 Scabper (30 ml) ?
73 Scabper (60 ml)
74 Scadis Bionova
75 Scadis Medis Lab
76 Scalix (60 ml)
77 Scanil
78 Scatik
79 Seaboz
80 Skabiz
81 Skabkill UL Ltd.
82 Skabkill NL Pvt. Ltd.
83 Termilice
84 Uniscab GTL Ltd.
85 Uniscab PIL
86 Viscab
87 Zeroscab ML
88 Zeroscab PG Pvt. Ltd.
89 Zeroscab ?
 
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