Feel the need for snakes

[Kriegan]

Alright so I don't know if i'm posting in the proper forum, if not mods please feel free to relocate this... I'd like some input and advice Now more than ever I've had this crazy desire to start my snake collection again here in the US, I have snakes in my blood and it's been upsetting and annoying me for a while. You are probably thinking well if he already has some T's he's starting to collect, why not do the same with snakes? :wall: :wall: Because my biggest problem is the place where I live. When we were moving to this apt downtown everything was going fine and dandy and the landlord was very polite and all until he spotted me carrying my T's enclosure from the SUV to the new apt. He approached me and informed me eventhough we never had specified any exotic animal keeping, he was warning me right now i could keep those T's and a dog or cat BUT not snakes I asked him what difference would it be if it's a T or a small snake and he rudely replied if i was not content or satisfied with his rules, we should move so since i had just signed contract and this was not specified at all i wanted to move to another apt and my girl said NO:wall: she said this was the apt she liked eventhough it was smaller and pricier, that we were paying for the location and the snobbish neighborhood:wall: she likes to be in:evil: so to avoid fights i settled with the small more expensive apt and with no chance of me getting any sort of snake!!! So I've made everyone happy but myself and I'm craving a snake BADLY. I was thinking of getting a snake anyway because it's not like my landlord lives with me and knows what comes and goes from my apt. He'll never know if i bring it in a small enclosure...he'll just think it's another T. And why does this guy hate snakes so badly????

(sigh) I need some advice from you guys...if i bring it and he finds out i'll be evicted and my girl will never speak to me again and if i don't i'll be miserable and drool over everyone's snake except mine and live being unhappy

 

[Socrates]

Hi Ulrich,

Quite a predicament you're in there, buddy.

In your contract, is there anything written at all in regards to snakes/herps/other animals? As far as I know your landlord can tell you all he wants, however, only what's stated in the contract is legally binding.

Does he ever come in for routine checks? Does he know how many critters you're keeping? If not, I don't see why you can't get a snake (or two or three....etc.). But even then he doesn't have the legal right to evict unless it's in direct violation of your lease contract.

Try and make your GF understand how much you miss keeping snakes, how much they mean to you, how much you miss them, and that keeping one or so will make you a happier man - therefore making her a happier woman.

Viel Glueck mein blauaeugiger deutscher Freund. (<--meant in a non-harrassing way )

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Wendy aka Waltraud
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[Arietans]

That is a tough one. Just keep in mind that if you get caught you will be kicked out.

I had a similar problem.

I keep 23 venomous snakes and 2 crocs in an apartment. The neighbours complained. But since the rules weren't in place when they complained he can't do much. For now.

Fighting with a landlord is no fun at all, but luckily I don't have a girlfriend. So that problem is spared me.

 

[Midnightrdr456]

well you have a responsibility as well. If the landlord says not snakes, for whatever reason, its his property, you cant have snakes. If he wanted to make it a legal issue he would win.

Plus the problems it would cause with your girlfriend too, risking something she clearly likes just to have a snake. Personally I say talk to your gf and maybe find a new place to live, either that or just accept the fact that for now you wont have a snake. Saying you wont be happy unless you have a snake is a little dramatic if you ask me. Personally there is nothing I want more than to keep some hot snakes, but I know for at least the next few years I wont be able to, (law school and then living at home till i get myself settled on my own), but what i do instead is i just plan to later down the line, and accept the fact that for now its not practical.

 

[tattoo_rebel]

This is very sad homie but since you already know what i think of this I'll just reinforce what i said yesterday to you. I like your crib a lot and i like crashing in it because it's like a hotel compared to mine but is it worth it bro? You two do make a beautiful couple and i enjoy hanging out with you two but you have your girl too spoiled, selfish and bratty and she thinks she's the queen of the world and can get away with anything she wants because you have allowed this to happen and you give her everything she wants. I'll admit your girl is extremely beautiful, sexy hot and has goddess curves that i can't help to :drool: about:worship: lol why do you think i come up with any excuse to go to your house lol no, that's not true i also go to eat food from the fridge lol The problem is you have her under your skin and you're madly in love and can't think straight bro what you need to do is just lay down the law to this girl. You're living in la la land and need a reality check and i'm being very blunt because you're my bro man and you should set her straight! Sit her down and ask her what does she pay for? What's that? Nothing, no bills, no rent just go to college and model, and then you come from another country just to be with this girl and work like a dog and she doesn't even please and support you in keeping some snakes to make you happy!:evil: If i were you i'd tell her enough! i've made you happy a whole year moving to where you wanted to be and now we're moving to a place where i can be happy too and that is the fair thing to do!! Don't settle bro and worst case scenario lol you have a wide range of fish to choose from lol you are a magnet chick homie i wish i were like that bro not having to make any efforts for ladies to want to talk to me as soon as i walk through the club door:worship: you didn't come overseas for this nonsense And hit me up as soon as you read this, i'm going to the parlor and i can retouch your tatts tonight.

 

[Zarathustra]

What you have to do is clear; you must get a snake. If having a snake brings you happiness, then you must do what is best for you. If your girlfriend has a problem with that, then get a new one. Such a small price to pay for happiness, and your girlfriend is being completely inflexible. I don’t know about her. (I think you need to stay away from these anti-snake women that you find yourself with.)

As for the landlord, just ignore him. I had the same rules in an apartment that I was living, but that never stopped me from doing something that I love, and I never got caught again after the first time I was caught. I kept snakes there for two years, and then I bought my own place. You just have to be careful. Keep the snake(s) in your bedroom, and you should be fine.

 

[Thoth]

Read your less carefully some are terminate at will lease, I had one in my previous apt.. If dieing for a snake, a male sand boa (Eryx colubrinus ssp.) thy don't get bigger than 20 inches and be kept in a 10 gal. they tend to stay buried under the substrate (I use crushed walnut shell) almost all of the time. So even if your landlord comes in all he sees is a a tank of substrate.

Though I don't suggest getting it, its not worth the constant worrying and domestic strife it may cause. Also you won't be staying there forever presumable and when you move on you could get a snake then.

 

[iturnrocks]

Couple things.

Grow a pair. Stand up to your old lady.

You dont have to bring the snake into the house inside a tank. Take the snake out of the tank and put in a cardboard box to carry it in. When you bring the tank in tell your nosey landlord its for your T's. Keep the snake tank covered or stick it in a cabinet. If your landlord is rummaging around your apartment, make him have to really look for it so you know hes snooping through your stuff. I had a wildlife watching program for my webcam, and when I left the apt, I would leave it on just pointing in my apt. It started recording when it picked up movement. I saw the maintenance man rummaging through my stuff and making phone calls with my phone, so I passed the vid on to the landlord, and they fired him. You gotta protect your stuff, and it never hurts to have a video.

As for your lease, youre cool at least until it comes time to renew it, then your landlord could add stuff to it.

Also check city codes to see if they have any restrictions on types of snakes you can keep. Some cities are paranoid about snakes.

 

[Kriegan]

UPDATE

Hallo, first of all thank you to all who replied and provided me with their input and advice:clap: I deeply appreciate your feedback!:worship: :worship:

After pondering all your suggestions I sat down and had a long and serious discussion with my girl explaining to her how upset i was and how much did i miss keeping snakes and how much it meant to me and i was really getting tired of her being selfish and snobbish and if this was all about making her happy and not 50/50 then i was hopping on the next flight to Berlin and without further thought auf wiedersehen ...well to my surprise it turns out she really had no idea i was still feeling this way since we signed the contract 10 months ago and since i'm not good at expressing my feelings:8o i always opt to avoid silly fights and arguments to have some peace:wall: so she didn't thought it was so important to me since i didn't nag about it no more but now that i had opened up she knew what would make me really happy and promised to be supportive So she said she was going to be
sad because she wanted us to renew contract but she also wanted to make me happy soooo we can start looking for a new apt in the same area but one that allows snake keeping!!! WOOO so I was very happy!!!:}

And then today I went to the petshop to buy some pinheads and fell in love with this cute kitten and i know how much she has wanted one so I thought I'd bring it home and make her smile So here it is, it's 4 week old boy and was sold to me as a siberian breed. LOL my girl was so happy she even told me i could get all the snakes that i wanted even before the contract expires and she doesn't care if the landlord kicks us if he finds out;P we anyway will be looking for a new place so right now I'm all excited like a little boy in a candy store deciding which one should i buy first LOL I must be the happiest man on earth right now!!!!! WOOOOO!!!!!

 

[Khaz Rhoz Zek]

Ah, that's great news. Good luck with the kitten, too!

 

[Arietans]

Good stuff boss!

Congrats.

 

[Gigas]

I think i may have fallen in love with you if you gave me that Kitten! man that thing is cute.
Goodluck in getting that new apt and a couple of slithery friends to share it with!

 

[Alice]

uh, i really don't want to spoil your fun but 4 weeks is REAL young for a kitten to take away from its mother. we keep cats so i know what i'm talking about - actually it's best to leave them with the mother for 10-12 weeks! so you might want to take it to a vet and get some additional nutrition for kittens. you can really damage its growth and development if it gets only solid food so early. but there is some kind of substitute milk that you can feed it (i don't know about the us, but you can get it from your vet here). just don't try to give it cow's milk, that will lead vomiting and stuff and won't help as cats can't digest it properly. hope i didn't spoil it for you and the best of luck with the cutie!

 

[Kriegan]

I think i may have fallen in love with you if you gave me that Kitten! man that thing is cute.

LOL I've learned, in relationships don't waste time..."let's make love, not war"

 

[Kriegan]

uh, i really don't want to spoil your fun but 4 weeks is REAL young for a kitten to take away from its mother. we keep cats so i know what i'm talking about - actually it's best to leave them with the mother for 10-12 weeks! so you might want to take it to a vet and get some additional nutrition for kittens. you can really damage its growth and development if it gets only solid food so early. but there is some kind of substitute milk that you can feed it (i don't know about the us, but you can get it from your vet here). just don't try to give it cow's milk, that will lead vomiting and stuff and won't help as cats can't digest it properly. hope i didn't spoil it for you and the best of luck with the cutie!

Yes he is still a baby and they had him with his mom and siblings in the back but they said they had started to nurture him with a formula so they could sell it because people were asking to buy him last week but it was too early, but now they had been giving him the supplement milk for a week and had been doing very good so i was lucky they sold it to me and i already made an appointment with the vet for tomorrow morning so it can take a look at it and take care of the shots and i guess he'll give some more of the supplement milk the petshop gave me in the meantime. But yeah he definetely needs care and attention since he's so young and you can even see he likes to cuddle to us to feel the warmth of our skin

 

[Mushroom Spore]

The fact that they see no problem with taking a kitten from its mother at far too young an age just so they can sell it sooner doesn't seem a bit wrong to you?

I've also heard that they need this time around mother and siblings to become socialized, and learn the things kitties need to know--up to and including rough play with others in the litter, so they start to learn how rough is too rough.

 

[tattoo_rebel]

I'm glad and happy you two lovebirds worked everything out bro:clap: And worst case scenario if she doesn't keep her promise yo you don't need to leave bro you're a magnet chick:worship: you can choose any girl you want that is really going to support you so just open up to the wonderful world of bachelorhood once again and don't get all depressed if you still love her lol it might hurt at first but it goes away with having fun;P lol, there's many hot fish in the pond homie;P lol and i'm taking home that kitty it's so adorable i wanted to gooble it up last night hehe wait till victoria sees it she's gonna want to play with it and keep it. btw i'm gonna pick up my stuff tonight so i'll hit ya up later on bro if not i'll come by tomorrow.

 

[Kriegan]

Hallo there,

@Mushroom Spore: Yes I was aware of this and discussed it with the manager and he informed me that since they had been feeding him the milk formula for a week now with good results, that's why he was already in the display for sale and when i went to the backroom to hold him that's when i saw the mom and siblings still together and I was given the feeding formula to nurture him in the meantime. And yes when you put it that way i can see how this would raise valid concerns but he seems very healthy and docile, and he loves to be hold and cuddled and i fed him twice today and he drank all his baby bottle so we are taking care of him and keeping him in my bedroom for closer observation, and i'm seeing the vet tomorrow morning.

@tattoo_rebel: John my friend being a "magnet chick" as you call me is nothing to be proud of...LOL it's more of a curse:wall: When you're young and single is wonderful, when you're in a serious relationship it gets annoying. I get surprised but flattered and enjoy nice comments, but i get very bothered and upset by disrespectful and dirty trashy comments. And i want you to know the main reason i'm in America is because I love her and because i don't think she's ready to live in Germany... yet , so if we're no longer together, without a doubt i'll be hopping on a flight back to my home sweet home. And yes she is very beautiful and i'm a happy man:} but her true beauty doesn't come from the flesh and that's what matters to me. So i have no business or need looking for nothing else in any pond because i already found what i was looking for and holding to it tight, and I would never do anything to jeopardize that LOL and Victoria is more than welcome to come and play with the kitten whenever she wants, but she has to behave

 

[Alice]

i really hope all goes well with your kitten. still, the substitute milk CANNOT substitue mother's milk (because it contains important things that help built a healthy immune system that you cannot give it otherwise). Plus, it's true that kittens have to be socialized and learn from their mum and siblings. so good luck!

and btw, cat's are social, you shouldn't keep him/her seperated from other cat's especially not at so early an age. but maybe your gf would love a second one as well.

maybe i should tell you this story to make claer what can (but need not) happen: a colleague of mine raised a small kitten like that because her mother had died. well, the kitten got so dependant on her that she couldn't be socialized with other cats later on. also, she started puking and destroying the furniture whenever she was left alone for more than a very few hours. so my colleague had to give her away (to some senior who's at home all the time) when she started a full-time job... not to scare you, but just so you know what can come of seperating them so early.