Exotic Pet Bans including tarantulas and scorpions

centipeedle

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It seems like theres been a lot more of a crackdown on exotic pet ownership lately. Does anyone else find it kinda ridiculous how relatively harmless pets such as scorpions and tarantulas are lumped in with stuff that only belong in zoos?

My county just decided to ban ownership of a wide variety of exotic pets, such as baboons, cobras, and kangaroos, but for some reason they chose to add tarantulas and scorpions to that list. Whats the reasoning behind it?
 

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Usually if it's within a city, area, or county. It's usually because someone was irresponsible as a pet owner and things got into a bad situation with a pet. Which gets reported to the local/state government and then they start making a list on what ban to keep it in check so that nothing goes wrong with such animal or species.

Now there could be other reasonings as to why it happens, but usually if it's within the local area or city. That's the most common occurance or solution that they come up with.
 

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It seems like theres been a lot more of a crackdown on exotic pet ownership lately. Does anyone else find it kinda ridiculous how relatively harmless pets such as scorpions and tarantulas are lumped in with stuff that only belong in zoos?

My county just decided to ban ownership of a wide variety of exotic pets, such as baboons, cobras, and kangaroos, but for some reason they chose to add tarantulas and scorpions to that list. Whats the reasoning behind it?
stupid people doing it

and smart people not caring, or not knowing, to do something about it
 

l4nsky

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https://usark.org/22va2/

Looks like you can still keep tarantulas native to North and South America atleast. By the way, if you're not a member of USARK, you might want to atleast consider joining their mailing list as they've been warning about this piece of legislation since December ;).
 

8 legged

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There are certainly several reasons. In a government one rarely finds the necessary expert knowledge, furthermore, an incredible number of owners fail in the care of their animals, which sometimes goes public. There self-righteous PETA supporters or similar "heroes" are lurking and are now trying to give their lives meaning by making demands. The politician usually has no adequate concept anyway and takes care of the matter. It may be useful in the next election... and laws are passed that are technically idiotic but give the actors an advantage.
 

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The blanket term "exotic pet" in itself is part of the problem, because it leads the public to wrongly assume that anything labelled as an exotic pet is equally unsuited to be a pet (despite the fact the term is far too broad for any sort of generalization to be made). This is worsened by the fact there are two different definitions of "exotic pet"; the one usually used (which includes anything not domesticated) and one used in veterinary literature (which is pretty much everything that's not a cat, dog, or livestock, including some domesticated animals)
 

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Another issue comes from our legislature trying to pass bills that are unconstitutionally vague. There have been a plethora of US Supreme Court cases where things have been overturned or ruled unlawful because they are unconstitutionally vague.

According to the U.S. Supreme Court in Connally v. General Construction Co. (1926), a law is unconstitutionally vague when people “of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning.” Whether or not the law regulates free speech, if it is unduly vague it raises serious problems under the due process guarantee, which is applicable to the federal government by virtue of the Fifth Amendment and to state governments through the Fourteenth Amendment.
 

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Usually if it's within a city, area, or county. It's usually because someone was irresponsible as a pet owner and things got into a bad situation with a pet. Which gets reported to the local/state government and then they start making a list on what ban to keep it in check so that nothing goes wrong with such animal or species.

Now there could be other reasonings as to why it happens, but usually if it's within the local area or city. That's the most common occurance or solution that they come up with.
What are the pitbull people doing correctly then? Saw them get deregulated in Denver and within a year multiple attacks resulting in loss of human life reported. Tales of those things disfiguring and killing people every year can be easily found, yet they remain legal in most areas. My spider might make you itchy or put the hurt on you if you get bit, but I don't walk them often and they can't get out of their enclosures so the odds of the neighbor's kid getting hurt are next to zero.
 

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What are the pitbull people doing correctly then? Saw them get deregulated in Denver and within a year multiple attacks resulting in loss of human life reported. Tales of those things disfiguring and killing people every year can be easily found, yet they remain legal in most areas. My spider might make you itchy or put the hurt on you if you get bit, but I don't walk them often and they can't get out of their enclosures so the odds of the neighbor's kid getting hurt are next to zero.
It usually starts by something completely far off and then it tumbles down to everything else when it comes to exotic pets. An example is that one time in the state of North Carolina where they were trying to ban exotic pets because someone lost control of their Spitting Cobra and it got on the loose. Before you know it, they tried to ban exotic pets in North Carolina. But it didn't equate to much in the end. Exotic pets do not get the same treatment as dogs or cats, regardless of breed the dog or cat is whether for better or worse. It's just the sad reality of things as cats, dog, and the typical household animal are more as common pets in comparison to exotic animals.
 

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The blanket term "exotic pet" in itself is part of the problem, because it leads the public to wrongly assume that anything labelled as an exotic pet is equally unsuited to be a pet (despite the fact the term is far too broad for any sort of generalization to be made). This is worsened by the fact there are two different definitions of "exotic pet"; the one usually used (which includes anything not domesticated) and one used in veterinary literature (which is pretty much everything that's not a cat, dog, or livestock, including some domesticated animals)
100% with you! It is wrong and a big mistake to call spiders, snakes... exotics. There are more "exotic" beings on this planet then other lifes....
 

centipeedle

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It usually starts by something completely far off and then it tumbles down to everything else when it comes to exotic pets. An example is that one time in the state of North Carolina where they were trying to ban exotic pets because someone lost control of their Spitting Cobra and it got on the loose. Before you know it, they tried to ban exotic pets in North Carolina. But it didn't equate to much in the end. Exotic pets do not get the same treatment as dogs or cats, regardless of breed the dog or cat is whether for better or worse. It's just the sad reality of things as cats, dog, and the typical household animal are more as common pets in comparison to exotic animals.
Yep, in my area it was some genius whose alligator got loose for a week haha
 
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