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Eupalaestrus Campestratus vs. Aphonopelma Seemanni

Discussion in 'Tarantula Chat' started by Mychajlo, Feb 8, 2018.

  1. Mychajlo

    Mychajlo Arachnosquire

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    Hey guys,
    So recently I just bought what I was told was a Eupalaestrus Campestratus ( Pink Zebra Beauty ) and I mean she looks as if she is one, but I’ve been watching YouTube videos about the species cause I love watching other keepers videos with the same species, but anyway, I noticed that people have been describing the Aphonopelma Seemanni and my girl looks like the description of the A. Seemanni, so I’m just wondering what are the differences between the A. Seemanni and the E. Campestratus. This is a picture of my girl Holly, she’s about 5”
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  2. Ztesch

    Ztesch Arachnoknight

    The E. Campestratus has a lot more hair then the A. Seemani. That pic does look kinda similar. Can you get a picture with more light. That's my A. Seemani by the way.
     
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  3. Mychajlo

    Mychajlo Arachnosquire

    Yeah I sure can, some of y’all are gonna HATE a couple of these pictures but I’m only doing this to show you the docility of my girl if that had anything to do with the identification, It looks like she hasn’t molted in a while
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  4. BobBarley

    BobBarley Arachnoprince

    Doesn't look like seemanni to me. Please take clear pics of the spinners and underside if possible.

    Handling pics are 100% unnecessary for ID in any species :).
     
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  5. Mychajlo

    Mychajlo Arachnosquire

    I’m not able to get those pictures right now, but the spinnerettes are tan/orange and the underside has a small tinge of orange
     
  6. Sarkhan42

    Sarkhan42 Arachnolord

    Looks very much seemani to me, and from your description of the underside/spinnerets I would say seemani.
     
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  7. BobBarley

    BobBarley Arachnoprince

    With that description, leaning towards seemanni. A pic is worth a thousand words though, I can't really make it out.
     
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  8. Mychajlo

    Mychajlo Arachnosquire

    Thanks for all the responses, I’ll make sure to get those pics and some more clearer pics tomorrow, so stay tuned lol
     
  9. Mychajlo

    Mychajlo Arachnosquire

    So she came out and snagged some pics, here they are
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  10. Sarkhan42

    Sarkhan42 Arachnolord

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  11. From what I read this is an undescribed species called Aphonopelma sp. 'Guatemala stripe legs'.
     
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  12. Ztesch

    Ztesch Arachnoknight

    Ya that's no E-camp. Looks like a Aphonopelma seemani to me. Make sure you give him way more substrate. I would give him at least 4 inches. They love to dig elaborate burrows.
     
  13. boina

    boina Lady of the mites Arachnosupporter

    It doesn't look like a proper A. seemanni to me - not orange enough, unless that's the light, therefore I'm very much inclined to go with @KezyGLA suggestion.
     
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  14. Mychajlo

    Mychajlo Arachnosquire

    I just got some info from the pet store and this specific T was wild caught, and her spinerettes are much more orange than her underside, her underside is just barley a hint of orange, in normal light
     
  15. Then it is Aphonopelma sp. 'guatemala stripe leg'

    These have been sold as Aphonopelma seemanni 'blue form' in both Europe and US.
     
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  16. sdsnybny

    sdsnybny Arachnogeek Arachnosupporter

    Definitely not A seemanni blue form, they are way more blue than that T in the pictures.

    My sub adult "Blue form"
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  17. Depends on locality and molting conditions. It has been noted in the BTS journal that these species will be more brownish when found in drier environment and more black/blue when moulting in more humid habitat. There has also been experiment where a specimen was kept dry and moulted out brown and upon next moult was in humid setup, the same specimen turned dark with very visible blue hues, as if by magic.

    Ps. Note the thickness of the striping on your specimen does not match that of true Aphonopelma seemanni. More so to Aphonopelma sp. Guatemala stripe leg
     
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  18. viper69

    viper69 ArachnoGod Old Timer

    That's no PZB in the first post. no way, no how.
     
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  19. beaker41

    beaker41 Arachnoknight

    Massive difference in growth rate between those two species too, pzbs are so slow omg. 1/8” - 2” in 3 years so far for mine.
     
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  20. sdsnybny

    sdsnybny Arachnogeek Arachnosupporter

    You must not ever feed the poor girl....LOL
    you mileage may vary for example
    Temps 70-73 year round with the exception of late summer as I have no AC
    E. campestratus received at 1/4" on 1/12/16 now 4.5"
    molts 03/09/16, 07/20/16, 09/01/16, 12/06/16, 02/15/17, 04/28/17, 07/18/17 and due to molt again very soon
     
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