Eupalaestrus campestratus Submerged

Vanessa

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I have just watched my E. campestratus completely submerge their four front legs and carapace in their water dish. Unfortunately, I couldn't get a clear photo showing that the whole front end of their body was underwater.
Has anyone else seen this before? They are about 1" and have moulted within the last couple of weeks. Their water dish is always full, and the surrounding substrate is as well - mostly because they are wicking the water out of the dish.
They are not dehydrated and look really great. Is this normal behaviour?
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a lot of my Ts like to swim here and there. my hysteocrates occasionnaly submerges completely submerges itself. weirdos.
 

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a lot of my Ts like to swim here and there. my hysteocrates occasionnaly submerges completely submerges itself. weirdos.
The Hysterocrates are known to swim and submerge, but I have never heard of other genera doing it.
 

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It's really cool. Here is a video showing a gigas completely underwater.
 

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You're talking in plural again ;) the way you say it, it sounds as though you have multiple E.campestratus.
You did the same in your B.smithi with the scratched carapace-thread. It's a bit confusing...
 

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I was brought up by a very grammatically and politically correct mother from London, England. I was taught not to use the term 'it' when unsure of gender from a very young age. And while using both 'it' and 'they' are grammatically correct - it would not be very politically correct to approach someone's child, whose gender is unknown, and refer to them as an 'it'. I was taught from a very young age that it is better to use the term 'they' in order to not offend someone. Because using 'they' is as grammatically correct as using 'it'.
Being almost 50, I find it very difficult to reverse a lifetime of being politically correct in my speech. So, I am sorry if I confuse people, but it is something that I cannot change that easily.
When taken in the context of this post, it is easy to see that I am speaking of a singular spider.
 

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You're talking in plural again ;) the way you say it, it sounds as though you have multiple E.campestratus.
You did the same in your B.smithi with the scratched carapace-thread. It's a bit confusing...
I thought I was the only one confused by that. I was expecting more pics in the post.
 

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I disagree that it's easy to see you're speaking of a singular spider. I read it as if you had multiple spiders as well. "Their", rather than "its", implies multiple spiders.

Maybe it's just giving it's mouth a good rinse? I dunno, never seen that before. Not that deep anyway.
 

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People use it all the time without thought.

"Singular they.
Singular they is the use in English of the pronoun they, or its inflected or derivative forms, such as them, their, themself, or themselves, as a gender-neutral pronoun to refer to a single person or an antecedent that is grammatically singular."

"You can use the plural pronouns ‘they’, ‘them’, ‘their’ etc., despite the fact that, technically, they are referring back to a singular noun:
If your child is thinking about a gap year, they can get good advice from this website.
A researcher has to be completely objective in their findings.
Some people object to the use of plural pronouns in this type of situation on the grounds that it’s ungrammatical. In fact, the use of plural pronouns to refer back to a singular subject isn’t new: it represents a revival of a practice dating from the 16th century. It’s increasingly common in current English and is now widely accepted both in speech and in writing."
 

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I was brought up by a very grammatically and politically correct mother from London, England. I was taught not to use the term 'it' when unsure of gender from a very young age. And while using both 'it' and 'they' are grammatically correct - it would not be very politically correct to approach someone's child, whose gender is unknown, and refer to them as an 'it'. I was taught from a very young age that it is better to use the term 'they' in order to not offend someone. Because using 'they' is as grammatically correct as using 'it'.
Being almost 50, I find it very difficult to reverse a lifetime of being politically correct in my speech. So, I am sorry if I confuse people, but it is something that I cannot change that easily.
When taken in the context of this post, it is easy to see that I am speaking of a singular spider.
Lol, I was confused as well and thought you spoke about several T´s. Now, your mother would love the hysterically political correct Swedes. They have made up a new gender neutral pronoun, hen. Some kindergartens over there even use them in order not to possible offend anyone or anything, only to end up offending everyone. It´s incredible stupid, IMHO!
 

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A researcher has to be completely objective in their findings.
Yup, works great there because you defined the researcher as a single person :)

Regardless of grammar rules the fact remains that 99.9% of AB users will interpret "their" to mean plural in that instance. "Its" will rarely, if ever, be confused and nobody is going to be offended...I promise. :cool:
 

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Lol, I was confused as well and thought you spoke about several T´s. Now, your mother would love the hysterically political correct Swedes. They have made up a new gender neutral pronoun, hen. Some kindergartens over there even use them in order not to possible offend anyone or anything, only to end up offending everyone. It´s incredible stupid, IMHO!
But isn't "hen" a female chicken? In English anyway.
 

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I know a number of individuals who choose not to identify themselves with either gender. They are my friends, acquaintances, and co-workers, and it matters to me that I am not offensive in the way that I address them. It is really not that difficult to be as inoffensive as possible in the way you speak if you are empathetic to the feelings of others. I am very thankful that my mother taught me to speak in such a way that I take into consideration other people.
So, while I don't ever go out of my way to sugar coat what I am trying to convey to people, I do feel it behooves me to not be blatantly offensive. And, as I mentioned before, I am almost 50 years old and will probably not be able to abandon those habits... and neither do I want to.
 

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Yeah, but I placed it in italics to show that it weren´t an English word. Official Swedish now has three personal prounouns: han (he), hon (she), and hen (political correct BS)
I find it very sad that people think that being inoffensive and empathetic to others is BS.
 

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Life isn't inoffensive. Everyone's definition of offensive is different.

I'm not going to spend a bunch of effort making every day rainbows and fuzzies for everyone that I interact with all the time. In general I'm pretty nice though. It gets tiresome and annoying catering to the lowest common denominator.

I don't usually go out of my way to offend people either but if I do they can pull up their britches and deal with it like big boys and girls, ignore me, or go sulk in the corner about it. Life goes on.

Edit: This is getting OT in to watering hole material. I'm out. Gonna go look for tarantula snorkels :)
 

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It gets tiresome and annoying catering to the lowest common denominator.
I feel the same way - except I consider the lowest common denominators to be spite and apathy.
 
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