Advertisement I'm thinking about upgrading from my current Coolpix 3500. As part of what I like to photograph is macro, I thought I'd see if I could get any advice here. The other part is (still) scenery, and night shots. Now, I've learned a little bit since I started photographing, but not a whole lot. I know I wish to be able to set the shutter speed myself, at least While a compact camera is indeed compact, and therefore very portable, a system level camera would obviously be more upgradable. Chances are I'd throw it out the window, together with a retardedly expensive lens, before I learned to use it, but still.. Anyway, I', currently looking at these 3 (2 compacts, 1 dSLR): Pentax *ist DL Pentax Optio 750Z Canon Powershot s80 . I can get the *ist DL +an 18-55mm lens for around 680$ (I know electronics in the U.S are much cheaper) , the s80 for around 570$, and the Optio for around 450$. The s80 has a 'wider' lens(if anyone says 'tele' without explaining it I'll send fiery devils after that person) as I understand it, than the Optio, making it more suited for landscapes, while the Optio has a very good macro, as well as a somewhat worse ability (than the s80) to focus under bad lighting conditions. Both have worthless lithium proprietary batteries. The dSLR..is mostly dependant upon the lens used. So a sub-question would be: Do Pentax make any good lenses? What say you? (And if this should be in a the photos thread, please move it).