Care for a Euathlus sp. 'tigre costera' (Chilean Emerald Flame)

[spiderman336]

Thinking of getting this T. But can’t find nothing really about it. Life span? Temperament? Husbandry.

 

[spiderman336]

here is a pic of them older

 

[NMTs]

As far as I know, all of these Euathlus species that have been popping up are from Chile, Argentina, and Peru. Newer species would have to be from Peru or Argentina, as exports from Chile are still banned... That said, they are generally slower growing, smaller adult size (4-5"), and come from arid Andean highlands. Temperamentally, they tend to be pretty chill, but that can differ from specimen to specimen. My slings will leave their vials to go on a walkabout every time I take the lid off, so they are inquisitive for sure. Life span should be towards the higher end of the spectrum, like 15-20+ years for females and 4-6 years for males. I keep them (Euathlus species, not sp. tigre costera specifically) predominantly dry with a water dish and a moistened corner of substrate, a cork hide, and substrate deep enough to allow them to burrow if they want, but mine have always just pushed the sub around and not really dug burrows.

 

[spiderman336]

Do you mind posting a video of the set up plz and what size container and what size sling

 

[NMTs]

Do you mind posting a video of the set up plz and what size container and what size sling

Here are the enclosures for the 2 slings I have now...

Euathlus sp. tiger, had since the start of April, it's only molted twice and has grown from around 1/3" leg span to about 5/8" leg span. The enclosure is just a small vial about 1.25" diameter x 1.5" tall:

This one really likes to take a walkabout whenever I remove the top:


Euathlus truculentus, had since October 2022, it's molted 3 times and had gone from 1/2" leg span to just over 1.75" leg span. Enclosure is a 5oz condiment cup:


Like I said, they're slow growers. The bigger one is due for rehouse soon and will go into a 16oz deli cup.

 

[spiderman336]

Here are the enclosures for the 2 slings I have now...

Euathlus sp. tiger, had since the start of April, it's only molted twice and has grown from around 1/3" leg span to about 5/8" leg span. The enclosure is just a small vial about 1.25" diameter x 1.5" tall:
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This one really likes to take a walkabout whenever I remove the top:
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Euathlus truculentus, had since October 2022, it's molted 3 times and had gone from 1/2" leg span to just over 1.75" leg span. Enclosure is a 5oz condiment cup:
View attachment 456396

Like I said, they're slow growers. The bigger one is due for rehouse soon and will go into a 16oz deli cup.

Thank you really! I’ll copy your set up

 

[spiderman336]

Here are the enclosures for the 2 slings I have now...

Euathlus sp. tiger, had since the start of April, it's only molted twice and has grown from around 1/3" leg span to about 5/8" leg span. The enclosure is just a small vial about 1.25" diameter x 1.5" tall:
View attachment 456394
This one really likes to take a walkabout whenever I remove the top:
View attachment 456395

Euathlus truculentus, had since October 2022, it's molted 3 times and had gone from 1/2" leg span to just over 1.75" leg span. Enclosure is a 5oz condiment cup:
View attachment 456396

Like I said, they're slow growers. The bigger one is due for rehouse soon and will go into a 16oz deli cup.

Thank you really! I’ll copy your set up

Also would temperatures of 70-77 degrees be good for these lil guys?

 

[NMTs]

Also would temperatures of 70-77 degrees be good for these lil guys?

Yep.

 

[AphonopelmaTX]

Newer species would have to be from Peru or Argentina, as exports from Chile are still banned.

Not necessarily. Many tarantulas enter the hobby through illegal smuggling and there are plenty of news stories out there on the internet that support this claim. It would appear some actually get caught. There are also many species descriptions and other research papers published where the author(s) purposefully omit the collection details of their target taxon/ taxa and state they do so because of the illegal pet trade. And I know of at least one academic publication that details how the illegal tarantula trade works. Long story short, European countries are used as a laundering hub (my words) where illegal wildlife is re-exported to other countries using proper wildlife import/ export permits. So just because someone in the United States legally imports tarantulas using their import permit from USFW, doesn't really mean they are legal according to the laws of other countries.

The species referred to as Euathlus sp. "Tigre Costera" is in fact found in Chile. Like most tarantulas you can buy, how spiderlings of this species- and other Chilean species- appeared in the pet trade after the export ban is something of a mystery. Unless the seller can provide you some kind of official documentation from the Chilean government that states that whatever you bought were legally collected and exported from their country, there are really only two ways they could be outside of the country. 1) Adults were illegally collected and smuggled out of the country and the resulting spiderlings were exported -or- 2) Adults or spiderlings were in captivity before the export ban and it took a very long time for them to grow and reproduce in captivity. The latter is plausible considering how long it takes for the Chilean Euathlus species to grow and mature. However, these days I stay far far away from anything that looks suspicious and seeing new Chilean tarantula species pop up for sale on pricelists is definitely suspicious. The ban stopped the collection and importation of tarantulas by the 100s of thousands which I think is a huge accomplishment despite the few that trickle in through possible illegal means.

For more info on the species Euathlus sp. "Tigera Costera", as well as other Chilean species, look at the following site.

Euathlus sp "tigre costera" | Tarantulas Chilenas

Las tarantulas de chile llamadas tambien arañas pollito, son especies de gran impontacia en el control de plagas en nuestros campos.

tarantulas-chilenas.wixsite.com

 

[NMTs]

Not necessarily. Many tarantulas enter the hobby through illegal smuggling and there are plenty of news stories out there on the internet that support this claim. It would appear some actually get caught. There are also many species descriptions and other research papers published where the author(s) purposefully omit the collection details of their target taxon/ taxa and state they do so because of the illegal pet trade. And I know of at least one academic publication that details how the illegal tarantula trade works. Long story short, European countries are used as a laundering hub (my words) where illegal wildlife is re-exported to other countries using proper wildlife import/ export permits. So just because someone in the United States legally imports tarantulas using their import permit from USFW, doesn't really mean they are legal according to the laws of other countries.

The species referred to as Euathlus sp. "Tigre Costera" is in fact found in Chile. Like most tarantulas you can buy, how spiderlings of this species- and other Chilean species- appeared in the pet trade after the export ban is something of a mystery. Unless the seller can provide you some kind of official documentation from the Chilean government that states that whatever you bought were legally collected and exported from their country, there are really only two ways they could be outside of the country. 1) Adults were illegally collected and smuggled out of the country and the resulting spiderlings were exported -or- 2) Adults or spiderlings were in captivity before the export ban and it took a very long time for them to grow and reproduce in captivity. The latter is plausible considering how long it takes for the Chilean Euathlus species to grow and mature. However, these days I stay far far away from anything that looks suspicious and seeing new Chilean tarantula species pop up for sale on pricelists is definitely suspicious. The ban stopped the collection and importation of tarantulas by the 100s of thousands which I think is a huge accomplishment despite the few that trickle in through possible illegal means.

For more info on the species Euathlus sp. "Tigera Costera", as well as other Chilean species, look at the following site.

Euathlus sp "tigre costera" | Tarantulas Chilenas

Las tarantulas de chile llamadas tambien arañas pollito, son especies de gran impontacia en el control de plagas en nuestros campos.

tarantulas-chilenas.wixsite.com

Yeah, that comment was of the tongue-in-cheek variety, though I realize that doesn't translate in text...

 

[spiderman336]

Not necessarily. Many tarantulas enter the hobby through illegal smuggling and there are plenty of news stories out there on the internet that support this claim. It would appear some actually get caught. There are also many species descriptions and other research papers published where the author(s) purposefully omit the collection details of their target taxon/ taxa and state they do so because of the illegal pet trade. And I know of at least one academic publication that details how the illegal tarantula trade works. Long story short, European countries are used as a laundering hub (my words) where illegal wildlife is re-exported to other countries using proper wildlife import/ export permits. So just because someone in the United States legally imports tarantulas using their import permit from USFW, doesn't really mean they are legal according to the laws of other countries.

The species referred to as Euathlus sp. "Tigre Costera" is in fact found in Chile. Like most tarantulas you can buy, how spiderlings of this species- and other Chilean species- appeared in the pet trade after the export ban is something of a mystery. Unless the seller can provide you some kind of official documentation from the Chilean government that states that whatever you bought were legally collected and exported from their country, there are really only two ways they could be outside of the country. 1) Adults were illegally collected and smuggled out of the country and the resulting spiderlings were exported -or- 2) Adults or spiderlings were in captivity before the export ban and it took a very long time for them to grow and reproduce in captivity. The latter is plausible considering how long it takes for the Chilean Euathlus species to grow and mature. However, these days I stay far far away from anything that looks suspicious and seeing new Chilean tarantula species pop up for sale on pricelists is definitely suspicious. The ban stopped the collection and importation of tarantulas by the 100s of thousands which I think is a huge accomplishment despite the few that trickle in through possible illegal means.

For more info on the species Euathlus sp. "Tigera Costera", as well as other Chilean species, look at the following site.

Euathlus sp "tigre costera" | Tarantulas Chilenas

Las tarantulas de chile llamadas tambien arañas pollito, son especies de gran impontacia en el control de plagas en nuestros campos.

tarantulas-chilenas.wixsite.com

Not necessarily. Many tarantulas enter the hobby through illegal smuggling and there are plenty of news stories out there on the internet that support this claim. It would appear some actually get caught. There are also many species descriptions and other research papers published where the author(s) purposefully omit the collection details of their target taxon/ taxa and state they do so because of the illegal pet trade. And I know of at least one academic publication that details how the illegal tarantula trade works. Long story short, European countries are used as a laundering hub (my words) where illegal wildlife is re-exported to other countries using proper wildlife import/ export permits. So just because someone in the United States legally imports tarantulas using their import permit from USFW, doesn't really mean they are legal according to the laws of other countries.

The species referred to as Euathlus sp. "Tigre Costera" is in fact found in Chile. Like most tarantulas you can buy, how spiderlings of this species- and other Chilean species- appeared in the pet trade after the export ban is something of a mystery. Unless the seller can provide you some kind of official documentation from the Chilean government that states that whatever you bought were legally collected and exported from their country, there are really only two ways they could be outside of the country. 1) Adults were illegally collected and smuggled out of the country and the resulting spiderlings were exported -or- 2) Adults or spiderlings were in captivity before the export ban and it took a very long time for them to grow and reproduce in captivity. The latter is plausible considering how long it takes for the Chilean Euathlus species to grow and mature. However, these days I stay far far away from anything that looks suspicious and seeing new Chilean tarantula species pop up for sale on pricelists is definitely suspicious. The ban stopped the collection and importation of tarantulas by the 100s of thousands which I think is a huge accomplishment despite the few that trickle in through possible illegal means.

For more info on the species Euathlus sp. "Tigera Costera", as well as other Chilean species, look at the following site.

Euathlus sp "tigre costera" | Tarantulas Chilenas

Las tarantulas de chile llamadas tambien arañas pollito, son especies de gran impontacia en el control de plagas en nuestros campos.

tarantulas-chilenas.wixsite.com

Thanks I read what I could lol I’m Mexican but Spanish isn’t my first language lol