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afs rock

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i was wondering since i am sort of an advanced scorpion keeper if i could take on if i ever get into tarantuls if i could take on on of the harder species to care for :confused: (and please don't snap at me)
 

hassman789

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Well it would be better to work your way up to that, if you start with easier tarantulas and progress you could definately get into advanced tarantulas. But I don't reccomend getting a harder type as your first.
 

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A few things to consider, the more advanced T's aren't really considered advanced because they're 'hot' or anything, its about speed and temperament.. and things like jumping that scorps aren't gonna do. Do I think that will be a particular problem for you? No, as long as you feel comfortable with how to care for the T, and what is expected, you should be fine. I may recommend buying whatever 'advanced' sp. your after as a spiderling, just so you get more used to their care as they grow.

It could possibly be a bit unnerving to unpack a fully grown ornata or something with no tarantula experience :)

-Sean
 

afs rock

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i'm not talking soon but like singapore blues and green bottle blues that kind of thing as a somewhat advanced
 

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scorpions are stupid easy to safety manage compared to tarantulas.

sure, they are about equal footing for maximum quickness (and both are quicker than human reactions) but scorpions need obvious footing to climb vertical surfaces. tarantulas can glasswalk :)


i agree with ShadowBlade, get a baby if you do want to start with a harder species.
 

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In a word - RESEARCH!!! As long as you do that and respect your Tarantulas I don't see too much of an issue. I have only about 3 months of Tarantula expereince but I see myself drawn to mostly Old World T's. I have 4 Tarantulas so far. 3 New World and 1 Old. My Old World is the ever famous OBT! However, I will be ordering many more in the weeks/months too come. But all I seem to want are Old World African species! I research as much as I can though and take all the percussions that I can too be safe.
 

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i'm not talking soon but like singapore blues and green bottle blues that kind of thing as a somewhat advanced
i would highly, strongly, seriously dissuade you from the singapore blue. they are one of the most diey species out there.

GBB are awesome, though! very though, pretty quick growers. they tend to hide quite a bit, though... and as adults they do not have very vibrant colors unless you have them lighted too much or use a flash for pictures, but they are still pretty neat little bugs and not bad starters at all
 

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If there is a "tier 1" level of T's; the easiest to keep, it would include the basics like G. rosea, B. albopilosum, G. pulchripes, etc. The only reason I don't consider GBB's to be "tier 1" is that they're rather skittish and flickey, and are not good for handling at all. Many beginners really want to handle their spiders, so GBB's are less than perfect for that reason alone.

If you are comfortable with that, definitely go ahead and get one. They have absolutely fabntastic color changes, they are very hardy, resistant to dehydration, and eat voraciously. They also have simple setup requirements and web copiously and sit right out in the open a lot once they get bigger.

I'd suggest that you get a bit of experience under your belt before going for fast snarkies like Poecs, OBT's, singblue, etc. Like Caco said, they really are quite different in behavior and movement from your typical scorp.
 

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scorpions are stupid easy to safety manage compared to tarantulas.

sure, they are about equal footing for maximum quickness (and both are quicker than human reactions) but scorpions need obvious footing to climb vertical surfaces. tarantulas can glasswalk :)


i agree with ShadowBlade, get a baby if you do want to start with a harder species.
Wow, I had no idea scorps could be so quick. I've only had experience with local Centruroides, I'd hardly call them fast even on their best day. Thats pretty cool though

Greenbottle blues are actually great beginner Ts.
For ease of care, I'd agree with this. But for overall keeping, I'm with Ethan, I'd put 'em intermediate. They can be very quick and flighty. Great stepping stone between the grammos and brachys and the psalmos and pokies. And the're beautiful, active, and voracious eaters.
 

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L. violaceopes/Singapore blues are usually hiding most of the time, one rare occasions like when your are asleep they will come out. I think the hardest thing about getting a L violaceops would be transfering it into its enclosure. Mine never comes out to attack me, so in a sense they are not bad unless you mess with them
 

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Wow, I had no idea scorps could be so quick. I've only had experience with local Centruroides, I'd hardly call them fast even on their best day. Thats pretty cool though
they aren't really that fast, they are quick. fast describes top speed. quick describes accelerations of part of whole. a Centruroides can only crawl in the neighborhood of like 1-2mph, but their tail can strike with probably 10+ gravities of acceleration. rattlesnakes strike at around 30G so scorpion tails could be even quicker than i said


they might be able to burst up to like ~5-7mph, but i figure that is about it. that's not too fast, at all
 

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i'm not talking soon but like singapore blues and green bottle blues that kind of thing as a somewhat advanced
GBB are super super easy.

They are capable of being fast, especially when you feed them, but mine has never given me any problems and never shown any sort of aggression.

They don't like humidity, so no worries there.

They're not an advanced T, but they are fantastic and if that was one of the ones you want, you should most definitely get one.

Also, some T's are startlingly fast (like H. macs, S. calceatums, and most pokies)... but If you're used to scorpions, then you should be used to being careful around unpredictable, venomous animals, so just treat them with respect like always.

Honestly though, all that is easily avoided if you just keep your hands away from them ha ha. The humidity, temperature, and enclosure specifics are what you need to research, especially if you're looking into like T. blondi and other such "advanced" T's.
 

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i was wondering since i am sort of an advanced scorpion keeper if i could take on if i ever get into tarantuls if i could take on on of the harder species to care for :confused: (and please don't snap at me)
The Brachypelma Species is Docile but nervous tarantula almost all of them.
Also the most Docile but nervous tarantula is the "Brazilian Black Tarantula (Grammostola pulchra)" I think its most friendly tarantula. Easy to care!
 
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