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Tarantulas cant get used to handling, imo tarantulas is better for viewing purposes only. However snakes do get used to handling, but thats another topic.
A skydiving dog? That would be an instant Internet sensation .Even though I don't personally believe that arachnids are neurologically advanced enough to formulate cognitive learning behaviors, just for argument's sake lets say they could "get used" to handling......IMO, it is still completely unecessary. Sure, a dog can "get used" to skydiving.....but whats the point of throwing your dog from a plane (an activity that could kill it, just as handling a tarantula could)?
The dog lovers forum is going beserk!!!A skydiving dog? That would be an instant Internet sensation .
Too general a statement. There are lots of circumstances when and where handling a tarantula can be as safe as petting the family dog... for both handled and handler.It's a subject that seems to divide a lot of people: Some strongly advise AGAINST handling tarantulas, whereas others ENCOURAGE frequent handling
By handling a tarantula, you're putting both yourself and the spider at risk. ...
Pure conjecture. Not supported by any studies or even by the preponderance of anecdotal evidence. The jury's still out on this one.... Most accidental T deaths are a result of people dropping them while handling. ...
Pure conjecture. Not supported by any studies or even by the preponderance of anecdotal evidence. The jury's still out on this one. No one's ever asked the tarantula!... And the tarantula doesn't get anything out of the handling, ...
My pet Shelties would probably also rather be left alone until they learned...... it would probably much rather be left alone then be forced to crawl over your hands and arms. ...
Read Stress? You Wanna Know About Stress?... Some also argue that it puts Ts under unnecessary stress. ...
And thank you for the mention.... However, on the other hand, I am pretty sure I remember reading a section in 'The Tarantula Keeper's Guide' on how to and how not to handle a T, ...
Not just a claim. Demonstrable, verifiable, well known fact.... and encouraging frequent handling/manipulating so the T can become accustomed to it. Some people claim that Ts do get used to handling if done often enough. ...
Amen.... And there are definitely times when we need to 'handle' our tarantulas, even if it isn't direct contact with them. Moving a sling or juvenile into a larger enclosure as they get bigger is just one example. ...
To each his/her own. Personally, if I wanted to keep a pet that I wouldn't handle, I'd get another pink, plush Valentine's Day toy like the ones Marguerite left behind. No feeding. No grooming. No cage cleaning. Etc...... Personally I don't handle any of my spiders, mainly because I just don't see the point. ...
It's official, the Berlin Wall has fallen, and it's a free world. You're now able to think or believe just about anything you like. But in this case you're dread wrong. Certainly there are tarantulas that are not readily handleable, but there are also those that learn to recognize their keepers and even come across the cage to be fed, handled, or whatever. Your thoughts are too general to be credible.... Plus, I really don't think a tarantula can get used to being handled. ...
Illogical. No where is it written that only a mammal is capable of a learning behavior. A lot of birds, reptiles, squids, octopuses, planaria, and even a fair number of our tarantulas have clearly demonstrated the ability.... They aren't mammals that exhibit learning behaviour, ...
Unproven conjecture. Just because they don't exhibit facial expressions doesn't mean they can't have emotions, complex or otherwise. Just because their emotions may not be analogous to ours or recognizable to us doesn't mean that tarantulas don't have them.... nor do they have complex emotions. ...
Contrary to popular opinion, "primitive" does not necessarily mean deficient, retarded, or obsolete and outdated. Much more commonly it means that the organism in question has had vast amounts of time to invent all sorts of new, unexpected, and wonderful means of meeting the challenges of life, and then fine tuning and perfecting them to the point of an almost endless survival. Primitive is a goal, not a dead albatross.... primitive instinct?
You asked for it. You got it. Toyota!... I'm just wondering what other people's opinions are on this matter. ...
LOL! I was waiting for you two to show upAlright Stan, you can go back to sleep now.
Regrettably.I think handling is deffinitely part of the hobby!
Exactly, there is no valid point to it. Kind of a freak show thing. Besides, I'm an accountant and play guitar, I need my fingers to work properly. To me, one of the dumbest things you can do is show up to an emergency room in excrutiating pain and explain that you got bit holding your big Poecilotheria. They'll of course ask why, and you tell them...Personally I don't handle any of my spiders, mainly because I just don't see the point.
For what it's worth, you're much more likely to end up in the ER as a result of a cat bite. I think most of us would agree that Poecilotheria shouldn't be handled. I assume when we refer to handling we're discussing docile species - keeping in mind of course that some fools will handle anything.Regrettably.
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Exactly, there is no valid point to it. Kind of a freak show thing. Besides, I'm an accountant and play guitar, I need my fingers to work properly. To me, one of the dumbest things you can do is show up to an emergency room in excrutiating pain and explain that you got bit holding your big Poecilotheria. They'll of course ask why, and you tell them...
Sleep H***! I'm driving an 11 ton motorhome at 65 mph between Checotah, Oklahoma and Ft. Worth Texas on US-69, one of the roughest and most poorly maintained US highways in North America! Every time I try to catch a nap the motorhome hits another bone-jarring tank trap, and wakes me up!Alright Stan, you can go back to sleep now.
Whaaaa? You do understand that handling stresses out the spider don't you? If you care about the health of your animal, then you won't handle it if doing so is not good for them. THEY DO NOT LIKE TO BE HANDLED. I don't see what's so hard to understand about that. They are secretive animals by nature, and want nothing more than to be left alone.MY Opinion::
I think handling is deffinitely part of the hobby! The process of adaptation is very effective for animals and humans, basically all living organisms now I would think adapting to handling is such a minor action and i believe to some extent it may be true...
Now I'm worried.Sleep H***! I'm driving an 11 ton motorhome at 65 mph between Checotah, Oklahoma and Ft. Worth Texas
Had cats almost my entire life and never been bit. Yes, Poecs shouldn't be handled, especially adults, but it only takes seconds online to find a picture or video of some idiot holding one. One of my biggest issues with handling is that the average tarantula owner doesn't differentiate between species, and thinks if you can handle one, you can handle them all. I've seen pictures of people with big Theraphosa's on their face. And we're supposed to be the most intelligent life form on the planet.For what it's worth, you're much more likely to end up in the ER as a result of a cat bite. I think most of us would agree that Poecilotheria shouldn't be handled. I assume when we refer to handling we're discussing docile species - keeping in mind of course that some fools will handle anything.
Yeah, what's he doing, texting and driving? Probably swerving all over the road.And Stan, stay safe!