Thanks for the tip, I'm gonna check into those for my H. lividum.For the Borrowing T's That I have here @ my place, Nothing seems to work better than the "Bow Box" That Sterilite makes...They only cost about 8 bucks at walmart and it doesnt seem to hinder any of my T's at all...For quick and easy housing, Sterlite tubs seem to work just fine for me...