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C.nitidus mutants

Discussion in 'Scorpions' started by dangriga, Apr 11, 2009.

  1. KyuZo

    KyuZo Arachnoprince Old Timer

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    i just checked them out. they are both very cool, especially the scorpions forum.

    thanks
     
  2. Nungunugu

    Nungunugu Arachnosquire

    Yeah I forghot to post it here:

    It molted without problems. I am pretty confident, that it will make it to adulthood.

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  3. KyuZo

    KyuZo Arachnoprince Old Timer

    wow, I am amaze everytime i see a picture of it. you are one lucky guy.
     
  4. Thay are great.I wonder if that a passable gene.I would grow them up and inbreed them.
    To see if it is passed to there young.You wouldn't need to inbreed the 2 double tailed
    ones.Just lets inbreed with any of the clutch.If it is a passable trait.All members of the
    clutch will be carrying that trait and might reproduce double.By the third generation of
    inbreeding clutches you should produce close to 100%.Double tailed young.If it is a
    passable trait.It would a great project.
     
    Last edited: Jun 26, 2009
  5. bkelley02

    bkelley02 Arachnosquire

    That is incredible. As Satellite Rob said, would be interesting to see if you could breed for that trait.
     
  6. alexi

    alexi Arachnobaron

    So does it have a double digestive/resperatory tract then? or does it just split where the metasoma splits? I guess it probably just splits. It can probably eat more than a regular scorp since it has two tails to feed!!!
     
  7. pandinus

    pandinus Arachnoking Old Timer

    i was under the impression that it is not a passable gene but just a simple mutation.


    John
     
  8. ~Abyss~

    ~Abyss~ Arachnoking Old Timer

    But aren't certain mutations passable. Of course recessive but say you get two mutated scorpions you'd probably have a higher chance of getting another one.

    Thank You :D
     
  9. KyuZo

    KyuZo Arachnoprince Old Timer

    I think that mutations are passable, at least that's what i was taught in biology class anyway. the mutations that help an organism to survive and breed, will get pass down as survival tools.
     
  10. ~Abyss~

    ~Abyss~ Arachnoking Old Timer

    well thats the whole basis of evolution
     
  11. If this is a genetic mutation, it does mean that the scorp's entire genome possesses it. It may be possible to pass it to offspring, but I have a funny feeling that the mutant will be sterile.

    However, it is also possible that this could be a like a Siamese twin, and is actually 2 embryos that fused. Or there could have been some kind of other developmental problem that caused a single embryo to partially split early in development. In those cases, the mutation is not genetic and cannot be passed down.

    Either way, I hope the little bugger makes it to adulthood.
     
  12. KyuZo

    KyuZo Arachnoprince Old Timer

    I think that it's a mutation within the gene because the brood originally had two scorplings with 2 tails but one of them didn't make it.

    if it is two embryos that fused together, then i think that you would see this occurs more often.

    how long does it takes for this species to reach maturity?
     
  13. freaking amazing, as soon as i saw this i called all my roommates in to see it and then posted it to a few people i was talking to via AIM...everyone was amazed. if theres anyway to help the thing thru a molt would that increase chances of having it reach successful adulthood without problems? and if it were to by chance lose one of the tails would it be problematic or would it just straighten itself out through its molts and look normal by adulthood. these are questions i would love to know.

    BTW: whats the common name on these guys, i tried looking them up and couldnt find anything...they are very pretty when full grown id love to maybe own one...with or without a double tail lol.
     
    Last edited: Jun 26, 2009
  14. KyuZo

    KyuZo Arachnoprince Old Timer

    the last question was a pretty good one because the other one that died due to a bad molt got one of its tails stuck toward the end near the stinger. the owner should have cut it off and see if the little guy would survive.
     
  15. Aztek

    Aztek Arachnoprince

    I don't think there's a common name.
     


  16. Since there is more than 1 in the clutch.I would think it is a passable trait.
    If thay were mine.I would give it a try.It would be a great breeding project.
    What do you have to lose.But a little time.You don't have any investment
    because you already own them.There are alot of people that will pay alot
    money for freaks.If it is a passable trait all the young carry it.Even the ones
    that look normal.
     
    Last edited: Jun 27, 2009
  17. KyuZo

    KyuZo Arachnoprince Old Timer

    hey i didn't even think of that, but i think that you could be right about that. If i was the owner, then i would try inbreeding the ones that look normal because there is a good possibility of them having 2 tailed offsprings.

    good thinking there Satellite Rob:clap:!!!
     
  18. Hi Kyuzo,
    If it was a real freak of nature.It would be like a million to one shot and to
    get 2 in 1 clutch.I could begin to figure out the odds.Well it odds would be
    atronomical.That means thay would all have the trait.So that if you breed
    any 2 of them.Double tailed or not.Thay should produce about 1/3 double
    tailed young and every generation after should produce a higher percentage.
    By the third or fourth generation will produce 100% double tailed Scorps.I cant
    beleave there was 2 from 1 clutch.That means the trait is already fairly stronge.
     
  19. KyuZo

    KyuZo Arachnoprince Old Timer

  20. Oasis Inverts

    Oasis Inverts Arachnobaron Old Timer

    That is the coolest most weirdest creature I have ever seen...........
     
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