Arachnomaniac19
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Is it acceptable to breed the normal form with the gold form? I'm assuming that the gold form is recessive.
They are the same species no issues breeding them. The gold trait is recessive. There's been a few posts lately about the results of breeding if I can find them I'll post a link.Is it acceptable to breed the normal form with the gold form? I'm assuming that the gold form is recessive.
Isn't there an issue with this with P. murinus, where different "color forms" are being bred together but in actuality they are different locales?These produce colors not based on locals but on traits. Like my blue eyes are not a result of where I am from but what traits my parents had.
You don't just find golds only in one local you find them mixed in with the olives.
With some other species a group in a specific locale can had a slight variant that doesn't show up in a group from another locale. Most people that have access to these typically don't breed between them either.
I know. I'm saying people don't mix locales because it muddies up the genetics espcially since we don't know what genes are co-dom and what not.These produce colors not based on locals but on traits. Like my blue eyes are not a result of where I am from but what traits my parents had.
You don't just find golds only in one local you find them mixed in with the olives.
With some other species a group in a specific locale can had a slight variant that doesn't show up in a group from another locale. Most people that have access to these typically don't breed between them either.
Right, I was just pointing out with these it doesn't matter cause there isn't a local that only has gold and another with only olives. As far as I have ever heard both colors exist in all groups.I know. I'm saying people don't mix locales because it muddies up the genetics espcially since we don't know what genes are co-dom and what not.
I wish I could see enough of mine to even guess on sex. All of their molts stay down in the substrate. I am about to up-size the enclosures for my golds. They are all definitely bigger than my olives. In fact it caught me by surprise when I figured out how to check for size. I can monitor their overall size somewhat by using my red flashlight late at night on the deli cup to see their outline. I have to get lucky when they come up top on the substrate for a while to do thisMy golds seem to grow faster than the olives but other than that I'm not noticed anything vastly different between the two habit wise.
It's odd because it seems like the two golds are both females and and at least two of the olives are male. (based on size and how leggy/bulky they are)
As far as color patterns goes the gold's rings on the abdomen are more muted because of the weaker pigment but are still visible in the right light.
You can see them as lighter yellow:
But they really pop on the olives:
those are indeed local variants...and some day may have their seperate species....those should not be bred with other variants.Isn't there an issue with this with P. murinus, where different "color forms" are being bred together but in actuality they are different locales?
I know, read what I said above.those are indeed local variants...and some day may have their seperate species....those should not be bred with other variants.
Incei is totally differrent as explained. There are no local variants, theyre found on the island of trinidad.
The point of what everyone is saying is: you can breed two olives and get a gold. The very first gold came from two olives. They are the same species. Scientifically studied and proven. One is just a different color. Much like humans. Tan people are just as human as albinos.I know, read what I said above.
The dart frog locales, at least some, are the same species. In fact, some used to be classified as different species (Dendrobates tinctorius "azureus" comes to mind), but are now one species. Colour really isn't a proper way to distinguish a species.
I know. What I didn't know was if it was acceptable to breed them since in other species it isn't.The point of what everyone is saying is: you can breed two olives and get a gold. The very first gold came from two olives. They are the same species. Scientifically studied and proven. One is just a different color. Much like humans. Tan people are just as human as albinos.
I think the difference here is it isnt a "color form" caused by a different location. Its just a weird glitch in the genetics of this particular species. It wouldn't effect breeding in any negative aspect.I know. What I didn't know was if it was acceptable to breed them since in other species it isn't.
I know. But the cause of it is the same. Lots of people in other hobbies are picky about these "mudbloods!"I think the difference here is it isnt a "color form" caused by a different location. Its just a weird glitch in the genetics of this particular species. It wouldn't effect breeding in any negative aspect.